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Old 18 September 2006, 09:30   #1
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ribcraft or xs

ribcraft 5.3 with a suzuki 90hp or a xs 5.5 with a mercury 100hp 4stroke both approx same price which one do i choose
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Old 18 September 2006, 10:03   #2
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Tough call, I haven't been in either of the two boats but if the build quality is similar and the boats are laid out the same then I think size does matter and I'd be tempted to go for the XS with the 100 HP power lump.

I've been on the 6 m XS and I own a Ribcraft 585. With these two boats I much prefer the look of the Ribcraft. Funny but one of the most obvious disapointments on the XS was the seat cushions. The rest of the boat looks fine but the seat cushions don't seem big enough for when your getting chucked around the oggin.

Best of luck with your choice I'm sure they are both fine boats.
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Old 18 September 2006, 12:40   #3
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DEPENDS ON WHERE YOU ARE BASED,the ribcraft is nearly unbreakable, and bits can be added at any time,i would go for a ribcraft, very likely,would be identical speed,
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size matters

I would agree with biggles that this is one of the times when Size does Matter , I have had a Ribcraft 5.85 in the past and the only other Rib that is in the same ballpark is the XS 600 I now have, there are not as many XS's out there yet but i cannot praise the hull enough.

Go for the XS!

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Old 19 September 2006, 17:04   #6
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decided to go for the ribcraft, but 5.3 with 90 suzuki ski a frame, single seat consul + 2 twin jockeys etc etc or for much the same money 5.85 basic + 90 suzuki - only extra is 2 twin jockeys?????
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Go for the 585 if you can. The 5.3 is a great little boat, but the extra half a metre makes a massive difference in seakeeping.

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if i take the ski a frame off the 530 i can get it down to about £1500 less than 585 + 90hp suzi or appoox £2500 less than 585 + 115 hp suzi will the 585 be that much better?
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If you buy the 535 you'll have a load of fun but will probably want to trade up after season. You're likely to be happy with the 585 for a lot longer!

Tell us a bit more about what you plan to use the boat for . . .

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ill be using the boat for a mixture of inland /coastal and the odd trip across the irish sea. My main concern is my 3 kids aged between 12 - 16 - will they be able to handle the 585 or will the smaller 530 be more suited to them? They have no trouble with the 450 / 35hp i have now but 90 /115 is a totally different ball game or is it?
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There's no question in my mind. Get the 585.

Your kids will be fine driving it, and you're far more likely to have an enjoyable time on the more adventurous trips. The 535 is great for inshore use, but I would definitely want something bigger for anything remotely offshore.

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There's no question in my mind. Get the 585.

Your kids will be fine driving it, and you're far more likely to have an enjoyable time on the more adventurous trips. The 535 is great for inshore use, but I would definitely want something bigger for anything remotely offshore.

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Ribcraft state the 5.3 is CE CatB (should be able to handle force 8 with up to 4m waves) and has been designed for offshore use. Although I agree the 5.85 will be better in rougher water than the 5.3, I would not say the 5.3 is an inshore only boat! There is an astronimcal difference in the rough water performance of a small 4m RIB (eg SR4) to a 5.4, mainly driven by tube diameter and height (bow sheer etc) but there should not be such a dramatic difference between the 5.3 and 5.85 (5.85 is a little wider but tubes are same as 5.3). I believe 3 of the 4.8's went round britain so they must be pretty solid!!

I guess there are also other things to consider like towing, trailer size, engine size etc. For me, the 5.3 looked ideal, but then again that's just me and everyone has different requirements.

Whatever one of these boats you get, you are buying a solid, well made piece of kit!
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Old 21 September 2006, 07:51   #13
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There's no question in my mind. Get the 585.

Your kids will be fine driving it, and you're far more likely to have an enjoyable time on the more adventurous trips. The 535 is great for inshore use, but I would definitely want something bigger for anything remotely offshore.

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Kids fine !!!!
You nearly put me over the bow when you piloted mine !!!!!
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Ribcraft state the 5.3 is CE CatB (should be able to handle force 8 with up to 4m waves) and has been designed for offshore use. Although I agree the 5.85 will be better in rougher water than the 5.3, I would not say the 5.3 is an inshore only boat!
Oh the boat will be fine. I didn't say that it was an inshore only boat, but given the choice I would definitely go for the 585. I wouldn't choose to cross the Irish sea in a 535, especially not with youngsters on board. No one's likely to die, but it probably wouldn't be much fun after a while!
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There is an astronimcal difference in the rough water performance of a small 4m RIB (eg SR4) to a 5.4, mainly driven by tube diameter and height (bow sheer etc) but there should not be such a dramatic difference between the 5.3 and 5.85 (5.85 is a little wider but tubes are same as 5.3). I believe 3 of the 4.8's went round britain so they must be pretty solid!!
The difference between a 4m boat and a 5.5m boat is huge, but a 585 is still a whole lot more boat than the 535. The difference is actually quite surprising.
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No arguments there. I just reckon he'd be happier for longer with the 585.

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You nearly put me over the bow when you piloted mine !!!!!
Ah, I thought you might be along soon. Never mind about me (ahem) how about giving your views on 535 v 585?

Move along please. There's nothing to see here . . .

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No arguments there. I just reckon he'd be happier for longer with the 585.

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Yes, you're right. I'd want something as big as possible crossing the irish sea :-)

I went for a 5.3 but as always, it's a balance of many factors - towing, engine size etc. I was really torn between the 2 but decided the 5.85 was just a bit big for towing without changing the car (and would need a larger trailer and engine)! As it's for family cruising, if it's too rough for the 5.3, I shouldn't be out in it anyway (having said that I fully expect the 5.3 to get me back home in the rough stuff) - no trips to Ireland planned in the immediate future.
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Old 22 September 2006, 08:10   #18
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Ah, I thought you might be along soon. Never mind about me (ahem) how about giving your views on 535 v 585?

Move along please. There's nothing to see here . . .

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Oh alright!
5.3 great starter rib and will put a smile on your face, but will be a much more bumpy ride than 585.
You can squeeze 180 litres + onboard the bigger boat so range doubled.
I would say the 585 is more of a longer term ownership prospect. It will do most of what the big ribs will do for a fraction of the cost
Sold? I was!
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Old 22 September 2006, 08:15   #19
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Yes, you're right. I'd want something as big as possible crossing the irish sea :-)

I went for a 5.3 but as always, it's a balance of many factors - towing, engine size etc. I was really torn between the 2 but decided the 5.85 was just a bit big for towing without changing the car (and would need a larger trailer and engine)! As it's for family cruising, if it's too rough for the 5.3, I shouldn't be out in it anyway (having said that I fully expect the 5.3 to get me back home in the rough stuff) - no trips to Ireland planned in the immediate future.
I prefer trailing the 585 to the 5.3
Better trailer (rapide). The boat sits a lot lower than the snipe (5.3) The Boat doesn't not bounce around so much.
My audi A4 bling pulls 585 no problem
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Old 22 September 2006, 09:56   #20
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i might end up towing sometimes with a Berlingo van, but that shouldnt be a problem would it? 1100kg towing limit

Also i know the 530 with a 90hp would great fun i wouldnt loose the fun factor on the 585 + 115hp would i?
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