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Old 22 May 2006, 10:32   #61
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Yup im taking it as a hint alright... Keeping the eyes open all the time. Those Leeway RIB's look the dogs bollix, although im after coming a bit more mean looking... They're just a bit *too* pretty!
Belongs to Scotty on here, and its already in Ireland, tasty 150 opti on the back too!

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Old 22 May 2006, 10:40   #62
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Belongs to Scotty on here, and its already in Ireland, tasty 150 opti on the back too!

http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/F94636
The words "150" and "2 stroke" in the same sentence would give my father a heart-attack, regardless of how much I tell him that the Injection 2strokes are very competitive in regards to the economy of the 4stroke.

I'm also after a side-by-side jockey set layout with a bench to the rear
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The words "150" and "2 stroke" in the same sentence would give my father a heart-attack, regardless of how much I tell him that the Injection 2strokes are very competitive in regards to the economy of the 4stroke.

I'm also after a side-by-side jockey set layout with a bench to the rear
Fair enough, could get some 4stroke graphics made up for it I guess!! To quote the one and only Rogue Wave:
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what sort of engine did you want, 4 stroke, diesel or a proper one
Sorry Stu, your not going to be popular with Mr Manning now!
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I've found ymself owning less and less 2strok engines over the past 2 years.

I used to have 2 stroke bikes, dirtbikes, etc.

Now everything I own seems to be 4stroke. The boat is the last 2stroke thing I own, so I guess its time to convert also! Next thing you'll see a 4stroke lawnmower in my shed!
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The words "150" and "2 stroke" in the same sentence would give my father a heart-attack, regardless of how much I tell him that the Injection 2strokes are very competitive in regards to the economy of the 4stroke.

I'm also after a side-by-side jockey set layout with a bench to the rear
check out the fuel consumption thread to see what fuel consumption figures folks are getting, my 200 is returning 4.3 miles to the us gallon as an average on the smartcraft gauges which i would hope are correct, seem to be ok based on the amount of fuel i put in to miles i have done

modern 2 stroke engines are still a very viable alternative to 4 strokers. i would never had thought i would buy v6 3 litre twostroke but i have and very happy
some benefits of modern direct fuel injection 2 strokers

much greater power to weight ratio
very economical overall, close if not better than some 4 strokes
much lighter
negligible oil consumption
no smoke
sexy noise when you wind them up
cheaper to buy potentially
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i would say simple engines but optis are quite complex under the bonnet

i too love my opti and if someone said would i like to swap it for a 200 suz or verado then that would be a definate no on my boat
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its not entirely tru to brand 4 strokes as heavy, think hondas are though!!! for example my 140 suzuki only weighs 186kg, which is very light for the engine!!! in fact, is lighter than the 90/115hp suzukis, so i think each engine has to be compared on its own merits! also the optis, are close to giving the consumption of a 4/str, but is rarely better, also they tend to be pricey, i remember looking at mercury mariner optis when choosing an engine, and they were much pricier than the equivalent suzuki. and suzuki have a massive following now, plenty of manufacturers spec their boats with them! simply because they are excellent engines at a very good price! so therefore 4 strokes, many have a good power to weight ratio, depending on what boat you put it on, (same with all engines), are light, no smoke, and iquite like the grunt of our 140 suzuki, with hole shot good too, but i think its a fact that most modern engines are very good, so ppl who have owned them rarely have anything bad to say about their own engine!
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would agree

for me the weights were as follows
suz 175 211kg
suz 200 265 kg
etec small block 190 kg but not out and proven
opti 200 225kg
verado 200, god only knows

i agree that in some hp ranges the 4 strokers are very comparable

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its not entirely tru to brand 4 strokes as heavy, think hondas are though!!! for example my 140 suzuki only weighs 186kg, which is very light for the engine!!! in fact, is lighter than the 90/115hp suzukis, so i think each engine has to be compared on its own merits! also the optis, are close to giving the consumption of a 4/str, but is rarely better, also they tend to be pricey, i remember looking at mercury mariner optis when choosing an engine, and they were much pricier than the equivalent suzuki. and suzuki have a massive following now, plenty of manufacturers spec their boats with them! simply because they are excellent engines at a very good price! so therefore 4 strokes, many have a good power to weight ratio, depending on what boat you put it on, (same with all engines), are light, no smoke, and iquite like the grunt of our 140 suzuki, with hole shot good too, but i think its a fact that most modern engines are very good, so ppl who have owned them rarely have anything bad to say about their own engine!
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I am absolutily stupid when it comes to modern 2 strokes.

Is it true that the Injection 2strokes are close to 4stroke economy?
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I am absolutily stupid when it comes to modern 2 strokes.

Is it true that the Injection 2strokes are close to 4stroke economy?

oi yas for sure.......

i think you will find that an opti is far far economicalllllierrrr than a verado at higher speeds. everyone seems to comment that verados consume fuel at an alarming rate when the taps are open.

i too was worried when the first boat i looked at had an opti but the more i read up on it the more i liked.
etecs are good but generally are not quite as economical as optis (if you read up on the many like for like comparisons in the usa) and in my book the performance figures etc etc do not show "the" quantum leap in technology which is a shame. but lots of folks rate them very very highly

and as demonstrated in the past i will be the first one to say if something i own is not good or has faults etc
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So a 115 Optimax is as economical as say a 4stroke 115?

What about at WOT?
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