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Old 09 July 2007, 22:06   #11
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I agree with Downhilldai. Believe it or not. I used to pull a single mono skier on a deep water start with a 14ft Fletcher and a 50 hp merc. Could also pull two mono skiers from a jump start. Oh, for those days when you could water ski above Burseldon Bridge, launch and park for free at Swanwick Hard, cook breakfast on the bank and then go up to the Horse and Jockey for a pint for lunch. On high springs the water was over the bank so all you did was ski off the wet grass.
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Old 10 July 2007, 02:43   #12
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I think my mind is made and the 150 is the boy for me. The next decision is the suzi 150 or the yam.
Its good to here from people who are running both and are both happy with their choice (this forum really is priceless, please keep up the good work).
As I stated earlier Ribcraft seem to push the Suzis and will supply the yam but for a much higher cost. My last RIB had a yam and it never missed a beat but I also know people who have had the suzi 140 s and been very happy so the suzi will probably edge it unless someone gives me some good reasoning to spend more on the yam.
One more question, you are now familiar with my needs what prop would be best, I had assumed that I would buy a stainless steel from the outset, any recommendations?
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Old 11 July 2007, 16:16   #13
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Just seen the thread, was the HARD BOAT (Ebtide) not up to scratch................

My first Ribcraft was a 5.85 with a 115 Suzuki and we use to deepwater start mono with it and had no issues.

If you really think you need a 150, then I would ask the question, which dealer is going to offer you the best service, and on that subject you are on your own.

There is a 6.5 in neyland with a 150 and a 5.85 with a 140, so if you are in neyland, see if the guys are around. If you want a 6.8 with a 200 suzuki, give me a call.
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Old 11 July 2007, 16:42   #14
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Why not take a leaf out of Flavio's book and stick a Suzook DF 250 on there? Like his, it would only be 100hp over the max design hp. You could dodge as many salads as you like then.
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Old 11 July 2007, 17:26   #15
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I have narrowed my choices to a Suzi DF140 or 150 or the Yam F150 with the Suzi's seemingly preferred by Ribcraft due to the fact they can price more competitively.
So in my shoes what would you go for?
The way I see it the 140 sounds like a well proven and good match to the boat but may lack the guts to pull well enough for skiing. The 150 however may have more pull for skiing but be more expensive to run and a tad heavy thereby compromising handling on longer/rougher trips.
I read in one of Ibwet's posts that he burns 1.2ltrs/NM with the 150 Suzi, can anyone give me a comparitive number for the 140 Suzi or the 150 Yam?
I also noticed in one of Ibwets posts that he trialled both a 140 and 150 on a 5.85 before comitting, in case Ibwet doesn't read this does anyone know how he would have achieved this I am assuming it must have been at Ribex or somewhere similar.
Average burn for me is 1.2 NM per Liter. I've got a special alloy prop thats cheap and superior to the Suzi one. Dunno about the 150 but the 140 is good. Its certainly quiet, fast and frugal.

Those highlighted bits if true seem quite a difference for the same boat.
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Old 12 July 2007, 02:25   #16
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Peter, the Ebbtide has been a great boat and I had had a great two years with her. I have been able to have up to 7 people on board and still pull a monoskier up from a deep water start no problem. I have taken her as far as Grassholm, for regular Skomer picnics and caught lots of fish from the swim platform. After having owned a RIB however when you are cruising anywhere outside the Haven in a hardboat I am always aware of how much easier and safer it felt in a RIB. The main reason I chose the hardboat over a RIB last time was that I though if I went for something more comfortable and lavish than a RIB my wife would spend more time on the water meaning more time on the water for me. Initially this was the case but has now tailed off. The Ebbtide had a 2 year warranty which ran out in May so its time to reassess options. Its all your fault along with Alex, I really enjoyed my trip to the Smalls but wouldn't have taken it on in the Ebbtide.
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Old 12 July 2007, 04:29   #17
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The only boat better than a rib is a rib with a cabin........
If you want to try a 5.85 with a 140, let me know and I will give you the phone number of the guy.
catch up soon for another smalls trip. (see pictures of last trip in gallery section.
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Old 12 July 2007, 07:02   #18
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I cruise mostly, no skiing as yet, don't bother looking at the fuel consumption just fill it up when its empty! I'm sure both lumps will do what you want. personally I'd go for the 140 and then get the equivalent of 2 years free fuel
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Old 12 July 2007, 15:06   #19
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Thanks again guys more good info.
Pete, I read your reply earlier today and have spent all day trying to justify to myself why i need a 6.8 with a 200 (and where I would get the money). I love the idea and know from having seen it at close quarters that your boat is stunning but my sensible side (that doesn't get listened to much) won't let me do it.
The dealer issue is one of the reasons I initially fancied the Yam. The Pembs Yam dealer I used was really good with my other engine and I would have had confidence in using them again. However when i went to their showroom last weekend to see that everything was still running as previous i found an empty showroom and staff that are waiting to find out if they have jobs and if so where they will be, not confidence inspiring. I have no experience of the local Suzi dealer but have heard rumblings about them being slow, expensive and difficult to deal with. I would value your opinion on good dealers locally, if you don't want to hang dirty washing out in public pm me.
Finally I would be grateful if you could put me in touch with the guy with the 5.85 / Suzi combo, I'd gladly buy him a few pints in the bar whilst I quiz him on his rig.
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Old 13 July 2007, 12:58   #20
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Hello Paul,

I'm not going to be out on the river much tomorrow - just tomorrow evening upto Haverfordwest to the pub, but next weekend if the weather's good and you're about, you're more than welcome to try some skiing off the back of my boat with the 140. You may be surprised, I don't know

edit: the local suzy dealer / service people are slow, but book 2 or 3 months in advance for your service and you'll be sorted. Don't let them take advantage though, and keep pestering them....

Will keep you posted on more trips as the summer (what summer?) arrives.

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