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Old 31 May 2009, 08:45   #11
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The hull is 325 kilos alone (dry):

http://www.ribcraft.co.uk/ribcraft-p...pecifications/

With the engine that takes you up to 470 kilos, so I'd say you'll be under 700.
Good link, but I recon they weigh 210 kgs

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Agreed and often overlooked The manufacturers limits are the key check your handbook my laguna estate has an unbraked towing limit of 650kg
If you have C+E on your licence (i.e. did your test before 1997) the manufacturers limit is only a guide, you can tow up to the 750kg limit, although if you have an accident and the police consider the combination to have been unsafe they could use the fact that you were over the guide weight as evidence.

We have a 4.8 with a 60hp mariner, twin in-line pod seat, large fixed towing post and all kit and it's under 750, but i don't know by how much.
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Good link, but I recon they weigh 210 kgs

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Yep - sorry, my mistake. 355 kilos for hull and engine then, so assuming your trailer is 150 kilos, you've 195 kilos of fuel tank, fuel, battery and a-frame to play with before you get to a total of 700 kilos.

I'd assume you'll be fine.
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I stand ready to be corrected, but as i understand the law relating to trailers, it doesnt matter how heavy the boat is on an unbraked trailer,(obviously as long as its under 750KGS)Its the weight of the trailer plate that counts. IE if the boat and trailer weigh for example 500Kgs and your car has an unbraked towing limit of 700kgs, then weight wise its within the law, however the trailer is plated as 750kgs trailer weight then as far as the law is concerned your 50kgs overweight.
came across this towing 16 foot ifor williams chassis(empty) with a pug 504. trailer weighed sod all but was plated 3500kgs 3500kgs was over the limit for the car so the combination was illegal.
all you may need to do to be legal is get the trailer re plated for the weight the car can tow rather than 750kgs.
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Its the weight of the trailer plate that counts.
Quite true, all the weights are plate weights, not actual weights, but it is an offence for the actual weight to exceed the plate weight by any margin.

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3500kgs was over the limit for the car so the combination was illegal.
Not quite true. Not recommended, but not in itself illegal. VOSA (trying to find the link) say something like 'there is no legal requirements on the ratio of trailer to tractor vehicle weights'. As long as you have C+E on your license, nor is the manufacturer's handbook law.
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Quite true, all the weights are plate weights, not actual weights, but it is an offence for the actual weight to exceed the plate weight by any margin.



Not quite true. Not recommended, but not in itself illegal. VOSA (trying to find the link) say something like 'there is no legal requirements on the ratio of trailer to tractor vehicle weights'. As long as you have C+E on your license, nor is the manufacturer's handbook law.
Seems you may not get done for exceeding the towing recomendations of the manufacturer, however if it "constitutes a danger" then you get done for dangerous driving, 6of one half a dozen really!

the truth of it is that most police dont know the law themselves, and if everything looks reasonable and is a sensible looking combination then your'e unlikley to have any problems.
so dont go towing a pac 22 behind a subaru!!

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"the maximum permissible trailer weight is quoted by the vehicle manufacturer. If this is exceeded it is possible that the Courts or Insurance Companies take the view that this constitutes a danger."
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