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Old 21 December 2002, 14:08   #21
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Allan, you need to read the thread properly, it wasn't the guy with the hard boat that quoted 6 hours, it was one of you rubber-ducker's
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Old 21 December 2002, 14:14   #22
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Thanx Splodge,

Seems that I haven't got off to a very good start. Perhaps I had better batten down the hatches!
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Old 21 December 2002, 14:14   #23
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Dirk /Splodge You are right, I should have read the thread properly first. After saying that, there is still something not right about this. You appear to be having a go at Rib owners rather than being an enthusiast Alan P
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Old 21 December 2002, 14:14   #24
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Hmm...

As a novice "rubber ducker", I've been over in under three hours!
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Old 21 December 2002, 14:16   #25
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pete7,
if we are talking about any respectable amount of speed, tubes become a big problem of thier own, just ask chris strickland, and if the tubes make such an amazing difference to the sea keeping, how is the mannerfelt ribs generally average a lower speed in all conditions than the batboat they derive from? I think some of you guys read more into rubber dingy's than you should!
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Old 21 December 2002, 14:18   #26
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6 hours to Jersey is not an unreasonable time, coffee and a ciggy mid channel, lunch in Alderney and high teas in Sark. If your on holiday why rush? and at 20 - 25 knots everyone on board is comfortable.

Manos, sorry can't agree with you, the UK is fab for rib cruising either inshore or across the channel and and six hours no hardship. Afterall we spend all day at sea when we go diving, the trick is surely wearing the right kit and choosing the right conditions, no different to using any other type of boat then really. If the weather is poor don't go.

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Old 21 December 2002, 14:19   #27
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Allan p,
Don't get me wrong, I think ribs are exellent in thier own field, and am an enthusiast but do get bored with hearing the blind faith stories!
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Old 21 December 2002, 14:19   #28
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Re: A small?? comment

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(This reminds me of the diving club I bellong where everybody thinks that is macho to dive down to 50 meters and that by doing so they can prove something (to whom I still don't know). Well I have been diving for 25 years now and I think is not macho, and you prove nothing to no one. There is nothing to see in 50 mtrs (specially in the UK there is no light, no fish NOTHING!!) and there is nothing to prove to anyone except to add an extra danger to your life.)
This seems to be common to a lot of dive clubs in this part of the world (and I wouldn't be surprised if it was common on a global scale). Our club has had a few nasty accidents thanks to this kind of macho "let's push our skills" attitude.

However, I believe that a RIB is much more suited to the waters and climate in this part of a world to a normal powerboat. If I had to be out at sea in crap conditions, I'd much rather be there in a RIB than a similar sized normal powerboat.

As for the argument about "why do you think the RNLI only use RIBs for inshore work?", it could be something to do with the fact that it's possible that for offshore rescues they could be dealing with larger vessels, needing to be able to carry more people back and keep those people sheltered from the elements to try to prevent or delay the problems of hypothermia or other related conditions. Also there's the issue of towing. One of the current RNLI offshore boats is probably a lot more suitable for towing immobilised vessels back to shore than one of the RIBs would be, especially in nasty conditions.

Also, pay attention to Mr Priddy over there, he has indeed been there, done that, and worn the same soaking wet tshirt for many days.

But one of the main things is, if you don't feel safe going out in bad conditions, don't. Stay on dry land. If you know you can handle the conditions, and you know that your boat is up to it, and that it can cope with anything that might get thrown at it once you've left shore, then go for it.

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Dirk

To reply to your message.
Boat engine combi perfect. The scorpion is similar to the falcon and you will probably get (with some tuing on the prop) and engine hight (you better ask scorpion on that one since the boat has diffrent keel than the falcon and cannot say exactly) a good 50+ knots top speed and 35-40 cruising. You need a SS prop with pich may be about 21"??
Regarding tubes there was a company advertising in the Internationa RIB mag (which unfortunately I have left it in Greece) and they were also giving big discounts.
My RIB has PVC and not HYPALON tubes. The are cheaper and last as long. I have read articles and tests made by ORCA and these German guys who made mine and on tests both materials performed the same. Zodiac also make their tubes from PVC. Also PVC repairs much easier than Hypalon. You don't need to heat surfaces etc etc.
I suppose you will fit new tanks. DO NOT FIT Steinless Steel. Get some good plastic ones and try to put them where you can inspect them, take them on and off easily. SS tanks for petrol are a nuisance they can get electrolisis, they need inspection (for the earth connection) every so often and if they are placed under the deck and inside the hull and if you have a leak you would have to spend lots and lots of dosh to repair it.
In short keep the min (and safest!!) poss as far as electronic and other equipment is concerned on the boat i.e. GPS, VHF and a radio if you like. Anything else is an added nuisance.
There is a thread that talks about things to have on a RIB and if you read it you find lots.
http://rib.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1478
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Not at all, it just seems to have exploded all of a sudden.

However, I wouldn't consider myself to be a rib enthusiast just yet, I haven't even got the damn thing on the water, it's still in bits.

Still, whats wrong with a lively discussion, your all in danger of hero worshipping without it, I would hate to have got involved with a forum with such one sided views as the mby forum, of the jet ski forum.

All I have done is ask a couple of questions, and answered a couple. If you have taken my views as a snipe at ribs and rib owners then I apologise, and will lay low for a couple of days.

Or how about the following:

For sale, 7 metre falcon, in need of slight repair, complete with 115 hp mercury. Owner too scared to venture out on water having upset the entire rib world!
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