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Old 03 October 2005, 08:41   #1
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RIB vs Sportsboat

Having made my mind up about which RIB I want, I went and tried a 22' Sportsboat/cuddy on Saturday, a Monterey 218LSC to be exact.

The RIB and the Monterey are about the same price, give or take a grand. The RIB is a 6m with a Yam 115 plus a few toys and the Monterey has an inboard 5.0Mpi V8 with 260hp. Both go well but the Monterey is a bit quicker and has a cuddy cabin.

What I want to know is, what are the pros and cons between these two types of boat particularly in terms of sea-keeping and suitability to a choppy solent?

Thanks again from a noob!
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You are comparing a heavy 6.7 meter sportsboat with a lightweight rib.

The rib will run with alot less fuel and the hardboat will give more comfort also in choppy water.

The real comfort while sailing in rough water depens ons the type of hull and particulary the deadrise of the hull.

A real deepV gives better performance in rough water. A shallow V gives more end speed with less horsepower but will break your back in rough water.
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Having made my mind up about which RIB I want, I went and tried a 22' Sportsboat/cuddy on Saturday, a Monterey 218LSC to be exact.

The RIB and the Monterey are about the same price, give or take a grand. The RIB is a 6m with a Yam 115 plus a few toys and the Monterey has an inboard 5.0Mpi V8 with 260hp. Both go well but the Monterey is a bit quicker and has a cuddy cabin.

What I want to know is, what are the pros and cons between these two types of boat particularly in terms of sea-keeping and suitability to a choppy solent?

Thanks again from a noob!
Well on this forum there can only be one answer GO FOR THE RIB unless you don't like getting wet, don't like the rough ect, ect, ect
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This is something you really have to choose for yourself, personally I am for both, but my next boat will actualy be sportboat which I will take her half way across the Atlantic ocean next summer.

Like we say the one that has the choice also has the pain....

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On my powerboat course a bloke came out with us a run - he had taken his first day on his own boat - an American bowrider - rinker or glastron or similar. He was stunned by the difference to the ride/speed in the waves.

Although the RIB was only a 5.5m he had a great time - think he was secretly regretting the solid boat.
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This is something you really have to choose for yourself, personally I am for both, but my next boat will actualy be sportboat which I will take her half way across the Atlantic ocean next summer.

Like we say the one that has the choice also has the pain....

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What about the other half of the ocean
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Having made my mind up about which RIB I want, I went and tried a 22' Sportsboat/cuddy on Saturday, a Monterey 218LSC to be exact.

The RIB and the Monterey are about the same price, give or take a grand. The RIB is a 6m with a Yam 115 plus a few toys and the Monterey has an inboard 5.0Mpi V8 with 260hp. Both go well but the Monterey is a bit quicker and has a cuddy cabin.

What I want to know is, what are the pros and cons between these two types of boat particularly in terms of sea-keeping and suitability to a choppy solent?

Thanks again from a noob!
I do a lot of work with Montery and the 218 is my favourite boat! It has a great hull and if I was looking to buy a boat of that size I would buy it!! With the 260 V8 is gives stunning performance and copes with the Solent chop exceptionally well. I delivered a 218 too Poole in a "very" lively sea and it handled everything that was thrown at it - better than some ribs I've driven!!

Many will comment on here re rib handling and the reason why, but the fact that you have the cuddy with the 218 will give you flexibility with overnighting onboard - even if a bit cosy.
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On my powerboat course a bloke came out with us a run - he had taken his first day on his own boat - an American bowrider - rinker or glastron or similar. He was stunned by the difference to the ride/speed in the waves.

Although the RIB was only a 5.5m he had a great time - think he was secretly regretting the solid boat.
In my view bowriders should not even be on anybody's shopping list in the UK. They are US lake boats - horrible things. I would almost gurantee that it was the guy's first boat and he bought a Galstron as well - ugh!

I've done "own boat" Level 2's on them and they handle like pigs and I won't even talk about "seakeeping"
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For a completely unbiased viewpoint you should ask the lads over on Boatmad about ribs

http://www.boatmadforum.co.uk/

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In my opinion:

Ribs = cool, multi-purpose, seaworthy.
Speedboats = favoured by chavs so that they can ignore 6 knot speed limits.

I'll get me coat. ;o)

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What about the other half of the ocean
I will fly that part

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In my view bowriders should not even be on anybody's shopping list in the UK. They are US lake boats - horrible things. I would almost gurantee that it was the guy's first boat and he bought a Galstron as well - ugh!

I've done "own boat" Level 2's on them and they handle like pigs and I won't even talk about "seakeeping"
To my view boats are different and does have different functions, the bowriders are surely good for lakes and as such we sell lots of them, for those after seagoing boats we recommend mainly deep V hull boats and for our climats up north boats where you can steer the boat inside.

But as a salesman I can´t sell myself anything but to do more stupid hangouts and get wet.........

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To my view boats are different and does have different functions, the bowriders are surely good for lakes and as such we sell lots of them, for those after seagoing boats we recommend mainly deep V hull boats and for our climats up north boats where you can steer the boat inside.

But as a salesman I can´t sell myself anything but to do more stupid hangouts and get wet.........

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I did in fact say they were lake boats, and I agree they have different functions.
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In my view bowriders should not even be on anybody's shopping list in the UK.
I was teaching in one of these at the weekend
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I think they are great !
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Nice and different Sea Ray style

Obviously creation from the French office

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Few far between those!
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This is something you really have to choose for yourself, personally I am for both, but my next boat will actualy be sportboat which I will take her half way across the Atlantic ocean next summer.

Like we say the one that has the choice also has the pain....

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hey Bogi

is there some kind of hotel out there or a bar or something?
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is there some kind of hotel out there or a bar or something?
Surely there are loads of hotels and bars over here, I live in the middle of Atlantic ocean and I am going to go as fast possible from Oban (Scotland) to Reykjavik via refueling in Torshavn, Faroe Island next July, it is only some 1.100 miles (which is normal drive for me in three day trip when I am over in UK).

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Surely there are loads of hotels and bars over here, I live in the middle of Atlantic ocean and I am going to go as fast possible from Oban (Scotland) to Reykjavik via refueling in Torshavn, Faroe Island next July, it is only some 1.100 miles (which is normal drive for me in three day trip when I am over in UK).

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wow a huge trip then, i expect mr BP will be interested in your venture as you will burn a lot of gas on that trip

what kind of budget do you allow for such a journey

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Estimated budget is between GBP 15.000 to 17.000 and that does not include the boat or engine just pure expenses as fuel, travel expenses etc, more info can be found on www.ribsters.net

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