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Old 22 May 2007, 08:58   #71
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Good hull, I believe its the same as Jimbo's
I thought, and correct me if I'm wrong, that Porters hulls were derived from the BWM moulds?
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Old 22 May 2007, 09:05   #72
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I thought, and correct me if I'm wrong, that Porters hulls were derived from the BWM moulds?
You might be right, I was under the possibly wrong impression that the Tohatsu RIB's, Solents, and Renegades were pretty much one and the same.

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Mark Halliday has a Renegade 6.5m, same engine too. They were built by Porters in Emsworth. Worth doing a search on Ribnet either by his name or "Porters" and Renegade etc. They went on to build the Tohatsu range, which is very similar to the Solent Ribs.
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Old 22 May 2007, 09:09   #73
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I've emailed Mark to see what his feelings are on the boat.
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Ta for the email.
I thought I would post my reply here, so as to fuel the discussion.

I like the Renegade. It is big for a 6.5 even it really is only 6.3m long.
Int. beam is 5' 1/2" from the console back so you dont knock feet/knees with the 3 x 3 seating. The down side is that it is nearly 8' 6" wide on the outside, which is around the width of Nos's artic'. I can not see past the tubes in any of the mirrors on my V8 Disco, even with towing mirrors attached! So towing can be interesting around push-bikes and narrow lanes.
It is not the fastest craft around. Mine tops out at around 38 - 40 kts. However you can get loads of kit, beer, kids etc in it. (See Pic) The console seat is far enough back not to act as an ejector seat, and I am happy to let my 9 y.o. sit there if things are not too rough.
It is a dry(ish) boat with a soft ride due to the huge flare and fine bow. The beam means it does not "tip" too much when turning so kids feel safe in it.
The Tohatsu 140 is bullet proof but thirsty and a bit loud. Economy wise I do around 1.1 to 1.3 l/nm. So a trip to from Northney to Cowes and back costs around 40-50. It will make the disco seem like the most economic car in the world. The way I look at things is that I can buy a lot of fuel for the 8-10k needed to replace the engine with something more modern.
From the pics on B&O I would say the hull is not too old but the engine may pre date the hull. The trailer is a West Mersea one, and is probably fitted with an Alco axel. Search for Alco and see what that will let you in for.
One last thing is that the Porter was formerly BWM DS21 so a search for one of those may turn up some more examples. The Parker 6.3 is again based on the same hull. Again worth a search. Andre had inboard diesel one (suprise, suprise) as a demonstratoe a few years back.

If you are down my way, I would be glad to let you have a look around mine. PM or email me for a phone number.
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Old 22 May 2007, 09:12   #74
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I thought, and correct me if I'm wrong, that Porters hulls were derived from the BWM moulds?
Yep. Mine went into the mould as a BWM and came out a Porter. BWM went bust while the epoxy was curing.
Porters made the BWM hulls and the Tohatsu ones too.
The Tohatsu hulls are not BWM, but my console is very like a Tohat one I believe..
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Old 22 May 2007, 09:15   #75
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If you are down my way, I would be glad to let you have a look around mine. PM or email me for a phone number.
Hi Mark

Thank you so much for taking the time to put all that down. Anything that can make my V8 Disco seem cheap cannot be a bad thing - I won't feel so guilty when filling her up at the petrol station...

I'm down to Prinsted this weekend so I'll give you an email - are you around nutbourne this weekend?

Thanks again I really appreciate this.
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You might be right, I was under the possibly wrong impression that the Tohatsu RIB's, Solents, and Renegades were pretty much one and the same.
Alex, as Mark has pointed out the BWM 21 became the Renegade. The BWM XP21 of which only a couple were made became the Tohatsu / Solent. The BWM XP21 was a copy of a ....... and so it goes on. Anyway all built by Porters along with some funny little things with sticks and rags that are always falling over even in chi harbour.

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Old 22 May 2007, 09:28   #77
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Alex as Mark has pointed out the BWM 21 became the Renegade. The BWM XP21 of which only a couple were made became the Tohatsu / Solent. The BWM XP21 was a copy of a ....... Pete

That'll explain why a friends Porter 6.5 Sport/Baracuda looks nothing like mine, and nore like an Avon.
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Old 22 May 2007, 09:38   #78
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That'll explain why a friends Porter 6.5 Sport/Baracuda looks nothing like mine, and nore like an Avon.
I might know a little more than I did yesterday - but I have no hope of reaching the knowledge that you lot seem to have I am not worthy
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I'd better get reading... Perhaps not all of them otherwise might miss the Summer, oh and Autumn and Winter...
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