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Old 21 May 2007, 15:28   #41
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I'm not telling you not to buy the petrol inboard - but bear in mind that less popular = no easy to resell.
Good point. Perhaps that is why the Humber we like hasn't been sold yet although it does appear to tick all the other boxes.
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Old 21 May 2007, 15:32   #42
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that second hand diesel rib prices were likely to be little affected by the new tax rules.
Would diesel be noisier that petrol - as in cars? Sorry if this is a blond question - I am.
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Old 21 May 2007, 15:40   #43
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Hi sarah G

I've never seen so many replies so quick in my life.

I wonder..
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Old 21 May 2007, 15:50   #44
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Would diesel be noisier that petrol - as in cars? Sorry if this is a blond question - I am.
There is certainly a different sound to them. Not sure if noisier or not - probably depends on the build as it would be quite feasible (even common?) to put sound insulation in the enclosure round an inboard - whereas an outboard will have minimal sounds insulation.

2-stroke engines are generally accepted as being noisier than 4 stroke - if that matters to you. I'm not sure how much the decibels change but the tone is very different.

Bear in mind that unlike a car enginer (which is probably sitting at 1/3 of its maximum revs when "cruising") boat engines are usually run at 3/4+ so will be loud....
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Old 21 May 2007, 15:52   #45
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Hi sarah G

I've never seen so many replies so quick in my life.

I wonder..
Sorry - work with computers so tend to be really sad and have it on most of the time... I also have to learn a great deal in a short time
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2-stroke engines are generally accepted as being noisier than 4 stroke - if that matters to you. I'm not sure how much the decibels change but the tone is very different.
Am I right in thinking that there are environmental plans to stop people using 2-stroke engines - or have I just had a horrible nightmare.
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Old 21 May 2007, 16:00   #47
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Sarah, There are no plans to ban exisiting 2 stroke outboard engines from being used, there are however much stricter laws in place that mean that engines being manufactured from the beginning of this year have to be much cleaner, most manufacturers have opted to go down the 4stroke route as they are a much cleaner, however there are also a new generation of 2 strokes that are designed to meet these regulations such as the Evinrude ETech or Mercury Optimax.

Are you planning to keep the boat on the water or would you trailer it every time you want to use it?

Realisticaly how many adults and Kids would you need to seat comfortably for long distance travel?

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Am I right in thinking that there are environmental plans to stop people using 2-stroke engines - or have I just had a horrible nightmare.
Traditional 2 stroke engines can no longer be made or imported into Europe (to comply with enviro rules). However this only affects new engines and not 2nd hand ones. I am not aware of any plans to outlaw 2nd hand ones (I hope not )

There are "new technology" 2 strokes - known as direct injection (the oil is injected directly into the cylinder - not to be confused with autolube - where the oil is mixed with the fuel first). Examples of direct injection outboards are: Evinrude E-tec, Tohatsu TLDI, Mercury Optimax...
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I note a lot of enthusiasm for these and Avon SR's.
I ve got an Avon SR4/ 50HP Mariner, they are quite possibly one of the best ribs ever made, very industrial and great fun, but abit small for you.

PM Biggles or roycruse, they both have a Ribcraft 5.85 with 140HP 4stroke, which in my view is the ultimate family cruising package, as JK says the 140HP isn't entirely necessary but you can never have a enough power. Ribcraft are one of the few big names that have customer service similar to you get with a car of the same value, they are very slick and professional and their ribs are very well built.
If your after something abit more sporty less commercial you can't go far wrong with the Solent 6.5 and 150 Opti, I have spent a number of hours helming Brucehawskers's 'Farfetched' and the combination really is a fantastic package that just inspires confindence.
For your budget and your intended use primarily as a rescue boat a Ribcraft 585 would my choice.
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Are you planning to keep the boat on the water or would you trailer it every time you want to use it?

Realisticaly how many adults and Kids would you need to seat comfortably for long distance travel?

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Hi Chris

Planning to launch each time needed and realistically minimum number of people would be 3 but regularly 7-8+ pottering around say Chichester harbour or for a quick blast outside, but occasionnally more.
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