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Old 21 May 2007, 11:32   #11
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To keep the fuel costs down, I suggest the later injected 2 stroke engines rather than the older carberated engines and watch the weight of the boats too which kills performance or takes bigger engines, hence more petrol. Two adverts to illustrate the point. The Ribcraft will use 10 gallons an hour cruising and could go to 15 at speed.

http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/F138525/

The Tohatsu is much lighter and has the later engine so think in terms of 6 gallons an hour and 7.5 flat out. The Tohatsu belongs to Jimbo on here and is for sale, you could have a chat with him and take her for a spin.

http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/F138868/

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Old 21 May 2007, 11:33   #12
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Personally I wouldn't go near a dealer or broker if I was spending 10k. You'll get a significantly better boat privately for that money as there's no dealer's/brokerage markup on it.

Just make sure you take someone who knows what they're doing with you.
Not always the case although probably so this time of year. It is not unkown in the depths of winter for a dealer to take a cash offer with little or even no profit to assist cash flow. All depends how much you can screw out of them. Also sometimes boats are taken in px and dealers will take what they can for them.
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In your first post you mentioned having plenty of seating. How many people do you want to carry comfortably? That's more likely to define the size than whether it will be OK across the Solent. As Biggles says, plenty of people do that in a 4m boat. Of course 5-6m+ will give you a nicer ride. The other difference you'll find is some boats have enough beam to have side-by-side seats while others can only manage a single, so you'll get more in for a given length.

Generally on RIBS it's diesel inboards and petrol outboards. Although the lower cost marine diesel is on its way out, a diesel will be more economic on fuel consumption. Either way it's a lot if you're used to yacht fuel usage at 5-6Kn.

If you're on a budget but expecting to use the boat a reasonable amount, spend the money on the engine and don't worry too much about the fine detail of the boat (as long as it is just cosmetic!) That's one advantage of outboards - lot easier to put a newer engine on an older boat. Take a look on previous posts to see what people have done with ropey-looking tubes.

Don't be swayed by a boat with lots of electronics over a sound one without - GPS and VHF are cheap these days and you don't need much more that those. The ones fitted may be quite old as well.

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Old 21 May 2007, 11:46   #14
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As regards outboards vs inboards it is not just the engine you need to consider but the drive leg as well. If the boat is kept in the water I would always try to go for an outboard because it can be lifted right out of the water.
I was planning to launch when required as I plan to use when we go camping (perhaps if weather bad - turn rib upside down!!!) and this may be anywhere on South coast. So is there a major difference when launching with inboard or outboard (I know about tilting outboards - but how does this work with inboard?).
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Old 21 May 2007, 11:49   #15
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Plenty of people do it in a 4 meter. Even in rough weather.
Yeah - but they are probably mental!!!

I suppose if it were just me and my man - fine but with a 4 year old as well I feel that it should be bigger - but perhaps that is my misunderstanding and actually a 5 to 5.5 would be sufficient - I will take your guidance.

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Old 21 May 2007, 11:53   #16
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The Tohatsu is much lighter and has the later engine so think in terms of 6 gallons an hour and 7.5 flat out. The Tohatsu belongs to Jimbo on here and is for sale, you could have a chat with him and take her for a spin.
Yep, more than welcome for a Sea Trial. I've also dropped the price!
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Old 21 May 2007, 11:55   #17
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perhaps that is my misunderstanding and actually a 5 to 5.5 would be sufficient - I will take your guidance.
With a decent beam, you'd be surprised how big and secure a 5.5m RIB can feel. You'd also have less outlay on an outboard and fuel at that size.

If you have the time and the inclination, a possible option is to source a used hull and engine seperately and build it to your requirements.
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I was planning to launch when required as I plan to use when we go camping (perhaps if weather bad - turn rib upside down!!!) and this may be anywhere on South coast. So is there a major difference when launching with inboard or outboard (I know about tilting outboards - but how does this work with inboard?).

You won't be able to up-turn a RIB - you're looking at (at a guess) 500kg for a 5m boat...
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Old 21 May 2007, 12:16   #19
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Personally I wouldn't go near a dealer or broker if I was spending 10k. You'll get a significantly better boat privately for that money as there's no dealer's/brokerage markup on it.

Just make sure you take someone who knows what they're doing with you.
I got really depressed at the w/end after trawling around all the various dealers near my parents. Hopefully my course at the weekend will give me a lot better idea on handling and size of boats - we will be doing high-speed mans etc.
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In your first post you mentioned having plenty of seating. How many people do you want to carry comfortably?
Much of the time only 3, but we tend to go camping and sailing with a croud (often lots of kids around) so it wouldn't be unheard of to have 5-6 adults and the same amount of kids.

Silly question I know - is the Volvo Penta a diesel engine then as it is inboard - I hadn't focussed on that?
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