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Old 15 March 2014, 06:28   #41
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Well, I can't get any more info on the GTC products as they are closed for the weekend but I have sent an email.

SPOT Gen3 Satellite GPS Messenger

I think the spot 3 is quite appealing as it has an SOS function which would give it the same functionality as a PLB? I was thinking about getting a PLB anyway after reading about Andy Proudfoot's ordeal (in this months power boat magazine) when he fell out of this boat and couldn't swim to it as boat was drifting away from him, his PLB saved his life.

Paul, not sure why you are hung up on geofencing as the gps position update will tell you were the boat is. Just a bit of a PITA a suppose to check the position daily I suppose

The only disadvantage is the annual service plan (a bit confusing on the website) which is £110 a year - not sure how that compares to the Garmin GT10 costs?
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Old 15 March 2014, 06:47   #42
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I can see the need for a geofence if your boat is on a swinging mooring.

A lot of the devices have a function to send a text if it detects movement, either through accelerometers, or if is moves.

With the boat swinging to a mooring, it will be sending constant alerts to say the thing is moving.

With a Geofence, you can set a parameter that sends you an alert if the boat moves more than xxx meters, or outside a defined geographical set of boundaries, so the boat could be swinging at the mooring, but not outside of the limits, so you dont get constant false alerts.

I would want a geofence to alert me if the boat has either been pinched, or has broken free of the mooring and drifting.

A geofence is one of the things which I was most interested in when i looked at the Garmin, plus the ability to tell me if the mains (boat battery) had been disconnected, or went dead.

I may just bite the bullet in the summer and go for a sattelite tracker, and the Mapping as well.

Unless someone has a cheaper alternative, such as booby traps, Man traps, filling the boat with a load of poisionous snakes etc....
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Old 15 March 2014, 07:49   #43
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Well, I can't get any more info on the GTC products as they are closed for the weekend but I have sent an email.

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I think SPR is a reseller?
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I think SPR is a reseller?
yes - I am need to update website ! Will do this week end! if want more info pm me. or email info@spr.co.uk
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Old 15 March 2014, 10:32   #45
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Had an email response from GTC and maybe the dock feature means geofence is no longer required. I would be more concerned of how long the battery would last (I have the attached file containing battery performance - so pm me if you would like a copy) but maybe it could be hardwired in.

Thanks for your email.

If you are using the device purely for tracking your boat and nothing else I would definitely recommend the SPOT Trace as this has been designed with boats in mind and has a ‘Dock Mode’ to allow for slight movements:

DOCK MODE
For assets stored on the water, where vibration would cause false tracking, enable Dock Mode to help eliminate tracks caused by waves while the boat is safely docked. When Dock Mode is enabled, Trace uses the vibration sensor and location to determine if track messages should be sent. Based on the assumption that a boat will be moving continuously when docked, Trace compares GPS readings to determine if the boat is actually changing locations. When a couple of GPS readings are the same, it will suspend Tracking. The device will continue to obtain readings from the GPS at whatever rate Tracking is set to (2.5 min, 5 min etc.) When two readings are more than 200 meters apart, Tracking will resume. If the boat is stationary and motion is low enough that vibration is not detected, Tracking can also be suspended due to lack of movement.

If you need to use the device for advanced features like SOS then SPOT 3 would be more suitable although this does not have the dock mode so could potentially send out tracking locations when the boat hasn’t moved anywhere.

Both devices require an annual service plan to operate. Please note that if you choose the basic service plan with SPOT the tracking feature is limited to a minimum of 10 minutes and needs to be reset after 24 hours. It is therefore recommended that you go for the Unlimited Tracking plan which allows for 5 minute tracking with no reset after 24 hours (it will transmit continually until movement stops).

The annual service plans include the online configuration tool and mapping software.

The tracking messages can be sent automatically by email e.g. if SPOT Trace detects movement it will send an email to advise you of this.

I have attached the estimated battery life of SPOT Trace although this assumes a lot of movement. In our testing, it has lasted for three months so far with needing a recharge (this is with occasional movement twice a day and stationary the remainder).

Finally, please note that the SPOT Trace is not currently available in the EU but will be shortly. The airtime plans have not yet been finalised but will likely be similar to Spot 3.

Please let me know if you have any questions.

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FINALLY.....

Have had a confirmation Email to tell me myhttps://www.thetileapp.com/ is ready for dispatch.

Hopefully, with all the time (and money..!!) they've had, this product should work 'out of the box'

Will let you know how i get on with it.
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Are you using tile for RIB security?

Would be interested to see how you find it, as it seems to be for smaller items that you misplace within a small area - not a big thing that's taken in the dead of the night down the motorways to the back of beyond?
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Are you using tile for RIB security?

Would be interested to see how you find it, as it seems to be for smaller items that you misplace within a small area - not a big thing that's taken in the dead of the night down the motorways to the back of beyond?
30m range & only lasts a year
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30m range & only lasts a year
Which is one of the reasons why this product will work better the more people buy them.

As long as the tile is within 30m of somebody running the App, then effectively the range is unlimited.

If my boat disappears in the dead of night, is taken by somebody who hasn't the App installed on their phone, and then stored in barn in the middle of nowwhere for over a year....then i'm screwed.!

Hence why i would prob use a better (more expensive) method if i owned a highly desirable/expensive rib.

My other concern is that hopefully there isn't a way that the App can work in reverse, therefore letting people know you where you live and exactly where all your precious items are stored.!!

The great thing about it is it's size, it's small enough to hide, so it won't cause alarm for the person stealing my boat/my wallet/my car keys and it won't be a drain on a battery/or need charging.

....and at £15 i think it's worth a punt. In fact i bought 3..!!

Hopefully no more lost keys....!!!
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I like the idea for lost keys in the house, but wouldn't use it for anything more.

How will the iPhone battery cope with this app updating all the time?
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