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Old 22 October 2002, 15:01   #41
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Gary,

In answer to your question there are responsible people and others. I am sure that having a baby on a stationary RIB is no different than a Li-Lo, probably even safer. What I am talking about is the whole purpose of a RIB, an exciting go anywhere machine, if you are not going to use it for that purpose why have it? If you do have it for that purpose where are you going to put the baby, and where is the cut off point for either taking it or not?

I have said nothing about younger children, that is a different matter, I am commenting on Babies. They are very delicate (not that young children aren't), why expose them to what is the equivalent of whiplash at speed on a RIB or speedboat for that matter. Pottering about safely is another matter again, you could be in any boat, you don't need a RIB for that. I fully agree that children should be part of the family and be able to enjoy the sea 'safely', that's why I chose my boat, others would choose something different, it's personal choice, but safety is everyones responsibility.

Anyway I withdraw any offensive remarks forwith apart from the picture of the young children without life jackets. Perhaps none of you have had to take dead babies out of the water after they have drowned! I have. Perhaps none of you have seen shredded babies that have gone through the windscreen of a car because they were not strapped in, I have. They had no choice or chance over their life, it was lost to idiots who should be locked up for a long time. Maybe that will reinforce what I am saying to you all, and why it is so sensitive to me!

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Old 22 October 2002, 15:11   #42
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an asumption

Flanker

You are making a bit of an asumption that the kids in the pictures cant swim, given that this chap lives in the med they may be water babies

anyway I read your book recently, an interesting read " HOW TO MAKE FRIENDS AND INFLUENCE PEOPLE" interesting approach ??

just a thought : when you are blasting around in your new glass inboard in perfectly flat conditions at 50 mph, you suddenly hit something hard floating in the water that you hadnt noticed...possibly a large log

you've pierced the hull and water is flooding in, the 300+ kg of engine is gonna do one thing ......take the hull straight to the bottom within a few minutes

Its at this stage you perhaps wish you had a rib ! So get an action plan in place for this eventuality

Even in my previous 21 foot bayliner with 4.3 litre inboard I never took the kids out in it (other than down the Hamble) because of my fear of its vulnerabilty to sinking quickly and a the fear of a fire from the inboard


as the kids are getting older 4 & 7 I specifically chose a rib because I thought there is no safer boat....

What I dislike about ribs is their cost relative to other boats, the little amount of storage space and how exposed to the elements you are

But I still have piece of mind

Think your wrong on this one mate
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Old 22 October 2002, 15:13   #43
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Hi Pete

We have a RIB for a number of reasons

1) We can only afford one big(ish) boat so want a boat that the family, the adults and everyone can use. A Rib allows this. Aslo we hope the lifespan of the RIB will mean when the "kids" do want to fly round in a force 6, when they get older then can do so.

2) We like RIBS and if we are ever caught out with bad weather, especially with kids on board we want to be in tha safest boat possible.

I understand your comments and agree about looking after kids. I also belive that people who put kids in cars without seatbelts/babyseats are idiots but thats not most of us.

Thanks for your withdraw of any offensive remarks , its just that most of us do take the saftey of kids very seriously and your generalisation do not represent the majority.

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Old 22 October 2002, 15:19   #44
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Matiboy,

I am probably a few years behind you re kids ages. I am having an 'A' Frame (gantry) designed and made for the boat to hold the lifeboat, radar reflector and radio mast. I found a great company in Liverpool who are going to build it for me, they deal with any stainless steel structures if anyone wants the details. I will e-mail you a copy of a picture in the factory, I can't get pictures on here, as I am still learning, you can describe it to the others.

Oh! I don't seem to have received my tickets to the RIBnet Christmas party yet, have they been posted !

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Old 22 October 2002, 15:21   #45
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Matiboy has no e-mail shown, if anyone else is willing to accept the photo it would be appreciated.

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Old 22 October 2002, 15:36   #46
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My conspiracy theory

I reckon that John Kennett is logging on as another user, under the guise of Flanker

is this a cunning attempt to spice up the forum and raise the ratings with a clever bit of confrontational discusion, John ?

Genius sheer genius John

Or have I been watching to many films LOL
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Matiboy,

It is definately me, Flanker, where is the e-mail address,

Cheers,

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Old 22 October 2002, 15:40   #48
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Hi Flanker,

If you want gruesome stories I bet I can beat you with mine......

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I might have to question that! but equal maybe. (where is Clive?)

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