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Old 11 January 2012, 04:47   #51
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It's out now. I picked a copy up from the petrol station last week.
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Old 17 January 2012, 15:05   #52
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not managed to get a copy yet.Whats the general opinion of it now its in circulation-allegedly somwhere
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Old 17 January 2012, 15:26   #53
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not managed to get a copy yet.Whats the general opinion of it now its in circulation-allegedly somwhere
I am undecided!

All IMHO:

What has improved
  • Graphic design is better in new version
  • Content is not bad by RIB mag standards - with some reasonably long articles and a good mix. Not read it all so no idea if there is any substance or all regurgitating marketing from the companies!
  • More adverts, from a wider variety of companies (I consider this a positive as it is essential for the viability of the mag)
  • Whole mag seemed to have more content
  • SOME interesting stuff on non rib content

What is worse/doesn't make sense
  • They made this decision almost as soon as SB&R announced it was stopping publishing - yet have very quickly turned themselves into something close to SB&R! I've always preferred RI/RIBmag to SB&R (Sports boats always seem a bit "fair weather" to me (which whilst fitting with the reality of my boating, conflicts with what I aspire to do!)).
  • I'm amazed they've managed to pull this together with so much non rib content in such short time, or was it in the pipeline anyway and SB&Rs demise is just fortuitious/coincidental.
  • If SB&R couldn't survive in this "space" why will HMS et al manage?
  • I think the "landrover" end of the RIB market (whether commercial, or enthusiast who prefers function to form) is quite a distinct market from the sports boat sector. Perhaps RIBEX will become even more the sexy end of the business and Seawork will dominate the rough and tough end?
  • With a wider audience, more advertisers and more content to talk about I'd have thought they might be able to go monthly.
  • Is that really the best self portrait picture HMS could find for people opening the mag for the first time?

All in all I am pleasantly surprised - although I did have to hunt the shelves to find it as tucked away at the back and having changed its "style" it wasn't immediately obvious as RIB mag.
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Well someones put viagra in the softboat section thats for sure .. mine came last week .. lay for a few days, then a opened it and thought omg .. thats definately the end of RI then ! .. still havent read it .. cant be bothered flicking through all the hard stuff .. one article caught my eye about the west coast though .. needs a cold guinness and a Sunday afternoon I think for best appraisal
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I like the magazine and as we also make hardboats I may one day decide to put in an advert covering the whole Parker range.

HMS is a ribster throughout and I was suprised he did not name the magazine
RIB & POWERBOAT MAGAZINE. I did email him at the time but no response to my question.
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Well someones put viagra in the softboat section thats for sure .. mine came last week .. lay for a few days, then a opened it and thought omg .. thats definately the end of RI then !
I guess they have to show they are serious to the ad market rather than just being ribs with occassional hardboats.
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Old mag Dec/Jan 2012
84 pages inc covers
24 pages of adverts
60 pages of content
4 rib reviews + tender review
7 "rib" features

New mag Feb/Mar 2012
116 pages inc covers
30 pages of adverts
80 pages of content (21 pages hardboat)
4 rib reviews + engine review
9 features which would have been "fine" in the old mag

In addition you get a hard boat review (actually quite an interesting one), a review of the hardboat market at the "sensible" priced end, and a couple of other articles which were more SB&R territory than RI.

At a glance it looks quite different - but when you compare old and new - the new stuff is "extra".
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I have to respect you for that Polwart ! You're a true bean counter ! I hope you and the missus dont come to blows over your tea bag drying and weekly rotation obsession !
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