View Poll Results: Do you subscribe to RIB International, and what do you think of it?
I subscribe to RIB International and think it is okay 6 9.52%
I subscribe to RIB International and think it needs a lot of improvement 26 41.27%
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Old 03 October 2002, 02:24   #51
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apparently pictures are more important than words but with no knowledge of publishing
I can understand this with a 'glossy' magazine. I'll contact RI and check out what their photographic requirements are. I know that the up market magazines (SHE, COSMOPOLITAN, Sunday supplemets) use transparencies. Magazines I have submitted to in the past take good quality colour prints.

One of the magic magazines I occasionaly write for does not pay me. Hovever as a 'magic' dealer (see website under Black Artefacts catalogue) anything they publish under my (stage) name serves as free advertising, so I am happy with that arrangement.

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Old 03 October 2002, 14:13   #52
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When I first started "BOAT FISHERMAN" wanted black and white prints (I really must be an old git) but they soon went onto transparencies and both sportsboat and rib have wanted them in that format in the past, although they will sometimes use GOOD prints. Lack of photos should not totally kill any ideas though as they often use stock photos to illustrate someone else's piece. I have seen some of my photos turn up out of the blue (gotta keep an eye on 'em) for someone elses piece and even more often someone elses photos used on an article of mine, probably cos mine were c**p!! Keith ifyou are talking to hugo see what the situation is with digital these days-I know one or two boat fishing titles are using 'em now and it would be a good excuse to buy 'er indoors one for her birthday and then i could borrow it !
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Old 03 October 2002, 16:42   #53
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Alan, well said.

No self-respecting editor should be looking for help. A publication lives or dies by its' circulation figures. Editors chase those figures voraciously. If they don't get (and keep) the readers their publishers sack them. Team effort and self-sacrifice from readers is not what it's all about. Unless, of course, a skillful editor can b******t fallguys into writing for free. (Heh,heh )
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Old 03 October 2002, 18:15   #54
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Not only in writing the articles for free but also in trucking their boat down to the editors locality to facilitate a photo shoot?! Maybe I AM underestimating HMS


I believe that HMS is both publisher and editor so that would explain things Mike?
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Old 04 October 2002, 03:09   #55
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Precisely so, Alan.

(Actually the word "publisher" is one of those terms that is often misused and its' meaning confused and confusing. There is a big difference between the publisher of, say, Motor Boats and Yachting - a hired hand and often lower in the pecking order than the editor of that mag - and, say, The Daily Telegraph and RIB International. Conrad Black and HMS are Propriotors as well as Publishers and can wave a very big stick at their Editors if they step out of editorial line. Being Propriotor, Publisher AND Editor makes you, well....Godlike )

PS I see I have now passed through the 200 mark with the number of trivial things I have posted. Do I get a badge to sow on the sleeve of my uniform now. I'd like it if I did. You and Keith must have loads of them by now.
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Old 04 October 2002, 13:04   #56
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Divils advocate bit, hold on!

Perhaps we should not be too harsh to HMS & co.
If you want a mag on your subject, as many have said, then there has to be some give and take in helping the mag promote the interest.

By having a full go at HMS here do we not risk upsetting the manufacturers who want to tell you about their product?

I'm not a a fan of the way RI has gone recently, but don't go to far and
a) put off those new to the pass time / industry,
b) loose the only product that out there

ps I don't count RIB + Sports boat - sunny day-boats in white not my thing despite how fast they go.
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Old 04 October 2002, 13:07   #57
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I'm with Tiger on this one

Despite being unimpressed with RI at the moment, and voting such in this pole i am thinking about writing something that i feel is more like what we (me and you lot) would like to see.

Problem is firstly i need to think of something and secondly i need to learn to write!

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Old 04 October 2002, 15:42   #58
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Preferred format is transparency/slides. Digital images or prints will be considered but must be of good quality
This is from RI, so it is as I thought.

Right, money where your mouth is time. I am going up to Scotland at the end of next week. My photographer/film director daughter (youngest of the two) is coming up and we are going to do a photo shoot to accompany the article I am going to write.

Now, why am I telling you this? Well, I am telling you so I comit myself to doing it. You see, I know that YOU will remind me and if I don't write it I'll look a bit of a prat! (You look a bit of a prat anyway Hart) [Who said that - was it Davison?]

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Old 04 October 2002, 19:55   #59
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Met HMS at Ribex this year, nice chap. My decision not to subscribe this year (as you can never find it in the shops!) had nothing to do with him more the fact that I can read the mag, cover to cover, in about an hour and a half. Although interesting, the majority of articles are lacking something. Quite what I don't know. I always looked forward to it dropping on the mat but always found it a bit of an anti-climax when it did. Also I have to agree with the car test commets earlier in the thread, irrelavent! Much better to cram the mag full of all different ribs. After all it is RIB international! I read with interest the RB4 article and round ireland trip, and to be fair the only reason I didn't subscribe this year is the fact that I found sportsboat & RIB mag a little more to my liking and decided to give that ago. I find the articles a little more reader friendly and there are more advertisers in SB$Rib that I find relevant to my interests especially the volume of boats for sale in the classified section,(may be upgrading next season) though that is no fault of HMS.
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Old 05 October 2002, 02:31   #60
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URGENT and cheeky request

It would be a great help to me if I caould actualy read a copy of RI before I write the article. Now this presents me with two problems.

1) It appears that I can't pop out to the local newsagents and buy it.
2) I'm off to Scotland next Thursday and I intend to write the article when I am up there.

The solution is down to the generosity of the wonderful people on Ribnet. (you creep Hart) - [was that Davidson again?]

Does any one have one or two back copies of the magazine I could have, please? If so could you send me a pm and I can send postal details etc. I know this is a bit cheeky to ask, but what the heck, throw caution to the wind and live life on the edge!

Of course after all of this I've got no idea if RI will be interested in my article. Still, if I don't submit one we'll never know.

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