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Old 13 December 2012, 13:05   #1
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Rib in Rough Water



Having a big dispute with a mate regarding throttle control in heavy weather. Having bought a sea-going rib we are pretty sure one day to have to make our way home in bad weather.

I am of the opinion that going down wind / waves (if possible) is the only way to go when conditions are extreme. He thinks good throttle control upwind is totally safe. Does the video above prove my point?
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Old 13 December 2012, 13:11   #2
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Your start point has to be rough water training as a boat may need to be helmed, beam seas, following seas or into the waves. Here is a good reference start from a fine trainer
The Powerboat Training Website

and also here on earlier postings
Rough water handling in a RIB: part 2 - Paul Glatzel

Just as a note to your thoughts, going as you say "downwind/waves" can be as dangerous by planting/stuffing bow into a wave and effectively stopping the boat and filling with water and at worst rolling over the bow!
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Your start point has to be rough water training as a boat may need to be helmed, beam seas, following seas or into the waves. Here is a good reference start from a fine trainer
The Powerboat Training Website

and also here on earlier postings
Rough water handling in a RIB: part 2 - Paul Glatzel

Very useful and thank you!
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Old 13 December 2012, 13:55   #4
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To be honest, the first thing you need to know in when to stay put.
The vid is extreme and anyone thinking of "making your way home" in that needs to think again.

If you are thinking "is this too much for me?" then the answer is yes, stay put and wait or find a different way home. 99% of the time the boat will out last you, the question is very rarely "can the boat take it?".

Upwind as your vid suggests can cause the issue illustrated, but you are in just as much danger if you run down the back of a big wave and stuff the nose of the boat, it can pivot on the bow and roll as the following wave overtakes.

I would suggest taking some advanced training, if you can find some one who is flexible to wait for the "correct" weather you'll learn a lot.

I did similar in a 15 dell quay dory launching in surf (Little haven, Pembs) for the Regatta's, Mad Mackerel Race when i was 14, luckilly we washed back on to the beach and no one was hurt, flipped the boat back over and re launched, but were too late to catch enough fish

I've also buried the nose of 1 or 2 boats in my time, the "green room" is a pretty, but concerning place to be :P

Tim @ Griffin Marine gets my vote if you need some pointers.
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Tim @ Griffin Marine gets my vote if you need some pointers.
Another vote for Tim here. Had some interesting conditions to return to 'England' in a few years ago!
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Personally, I'm way more afraid of following seas than head seas. Beating into the weather may be unpleasant, but going downhill is treacherous.

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Personally, I'm way more afraid of following seas than head seas. Beating into the weather may be unpleasant, but going downhill is treacherous.

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+1 I'd much rather be heading into the wind. I feel there is much more control. A following see is fun when your "surfing" the wave, but that's it, its just for fun
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When you're racing you have no choice - in reality another coming from the beam is actually a real issue, especially with a strong wind. As has been said above you can adjust your driving to suit the conditions and different hulls respond differently so some are better in head seas and some not.

The thing to remember is the best decision you will ever make is not to go out when it's too rough - judging when it's too rough is the hard part!
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Id rather be heading down wind in mine. Cause mines so light at the nose you have alot more close calls! Going down wind we just shift our weight back and go. The nose does go under sometimes but usually if the waves a decent size it gets jumped anyway!

On my level2 powerboat course they told me to hit waves at a 45% angle & just zigzag up & down wind in large swells.
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