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Old 08 December 2015, 07:17   #11
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I remember when I did my Yachtmaster that we were told any wave with height greater than the beam of your boat could capsize you. The video shows just how true that statement is.
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Old 08 December 2015, 07:42   #12
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Turned his back on it! Bow wow, fail!
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What should the cox of the rib have done once he found the breaker rolling in to him if he could not turn the rib in time?
I would say throttle, heading in any direction, would get the hull out of the water and lessen the chance of swamping. Ideally, you want to be heading into or away from the swell, but getting the boat up on plane in any direction will help.

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Old 08 December 2015, 12:12   #14
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For a start heshe should of been keeping a much better look-out and been more aware of the timing and size of the sets. I dare say the fact the waves were quite small gave him her added confidence.
FTFY!

Not sure how shallow the water is there but by the time you are in that position you have few escape options which means as jonp says you need to able to time it right.

If you need to do "rescue" work close to waves like that it may be better to anchor head to waves and back in.
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What a tosser that rib could have easily been picked up by a wave and surfed the boat over the top of the wind surfer,skipper not aware of the conditions around him/her not in gear by the looks either no control of the boat. Eye off the ball that's what you get.
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For a start he should of been keeping a much better look-out and been more aware of the timing and size of the sets. I dare say the fact the waves were quite small gave him added confidence.

Over the weekend I had a free-diver on a shallow reef with 2m swells pushing over the reef. At times I needed to head out if a bigger one popped up. If I had been in his situation I would of run in-front of the wave before turning away from its breaking direction.

Over here in my local area we are faced with a river crossing known as a bar which almost always has swell or pressure waves near the last of the runout tide. This video shows how it can catch people out on a flat day, we always have pretty decent swell around our shorelines its here where I love to play in my rib.

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I filmed this to show a calm day at our crossing
Looks good but is it the getting out that's more fun?

Regarding the original video, the only option he would have had is hard port and power with the waves but cannot tell how shallow he was and what room was available. If you are doing Safety cover it is very easy become disoriented when attending a situation that's why you have two on board. Either way its bow to waves, even stern on he risked swamping etc.

Its good to see this vids as it reminds you how easily things can go wrong even when all seems nice and calm..
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What a tosser that rib could have easily been picked up by a wave and surfed the boat over the top of the wind surfer,skipper not aware of the conditions around him/her not in gear by the looks either no control of the boat. Eye off the ball that's what you get.
That feels a bit harsh.
I have no idea what she was doing there. But the waves didn't look particularly rough.
I'm not saying it wasn't helm error. Clearly a more experienced helm would have been OK. But when did it become acceptable to call someone a tosser for making what appears to have been a genuine mistake. If she motored in at 40kts did a dangerous turn near the windsurfer putting the prop near the surfer and then in the process flipped it, then you can use the T word.

Eye appeared off the ball to me because was trying to drive and communicate with the surfer.
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I think if you follow the comment on YouTube and the remark in the video about his leg then the two had a coming together before the video starts and so it's understandable if she was more concerned for him than her vessel at that moment.

I think it is actually a really useful video for training both to show how ribs can capsize and how safety boat helms can be distracted. It's a shame there isn't some before and after footage to put in perspective. it would be a shame if people were less likely to post videos we can all learn from because the participants were mocked.
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They need one of these:

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The Barracudas look the dog's danglies.

Not much to add that's not been said. Bow to the surf at all times, and if acting in support-boat role, then two on board is a must so the helm can concentrate on the job at hand.

Everyone probably remembers this thread from a couple of years ago, and how a situation can change in an instant. Rib Capsize, Plymouth
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