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Old 28 February 2005, 13:59   #11
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Hi,

we have a Revenger 29 with 2 x 225 Evinrudes. We use the boat for something we call searafting here in Norway and we are carrying 12 persons onboard driving the boat like we had stolen boat, engines and fuel all day long. or in other word trying to kill the boat and engines.

So fare we have had no problem with our Revenger and the biggest waves we are riding are 4-5 meters, the only thing that has been a problem if you could call it a problem is that when you ride with the waves we might ride the bow straight true the waves but this only happends when its 4-5 meters waves.

I have a freind that have a Scorpion 8,75 that is allso doing searafting here in Norway, and i dont think he is so happy with his boat that i am.

Revenger is VERY good quality and i think that Scorpion have name that they dont deserve, i allso have heard from people that have visited the Scorpion factory that the factory looks like a mess.

We have now bought a new charter rib from a sweden based company called Rib Unlimited, and i most say that im very impressed with the service, deals, pricing and how clean the factory is.

So fare there seems like there is no company in the world that could beat the price that they have for a 36 feet charter rib with twin 315 yanmars, Bravo one XR drives with ITS stand off box, Ullman jockey seats etc

I will post pictures of the boat when it's finished about a month or so.
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Old 28 February 2005, 15:11   #12
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Revenger need to be driven hard in large seas. Excellent boat and build quality, very fast hull characteristics.

Searafting : I agree that Scorpions are over hyped and priced. They are very good in the solent chop but don't really like the big stuff. Their hull profile together with the hard nose on larger Scorpions gives them a tendency for stuffing.IMHO

Soft nose models prior to the hard nose have been known to have their tubes ripped off also.


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Old 28 February 2005, 15:29   #13
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SimpleSimon, you really are living up to your name!

In the time we have had our Scorpion (1 yr 8 mths) we have never stuffed it. I have only ever heard of a very few instances of Scorpions stuffing and in each case either the boat was out in awful weather, or the skipper admitted making an error, or both!

Regarding tubes parting company with the hull, I know of only one instance which was in the case of an early cabin RIB and the problem was rectified on that and all other cabin Scorpions.

Simon, please could you tell us exactly where you get your views on Scorpions from. Do you own one? Or use one regularly?
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Old 28 February 2005, 15:33   #14
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Ooooooo... That didn't take you long, Louise.

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Jeff, I am quite happy for people to disagree with me if they are able to back up their views with solid experience and knowledge of what they are talking about!
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Old 28 February 2005, 15:44   #16
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I'm unbiased and i think Simon has made some unfounded comments there.. but i'm prepaired to be wrong.

I think scorpions are stupidly over priced but they are very well designed and buitd, although i have still seen GRP cracking and minor design faults on the handfull i have had a chance to inspect / travel on / drive. No docout many of the "niggling faults" i've spotted are rectified if you buy brand new.

I have no first hand experience of Revenger afloat but the build looks good and evryone says how fast they are and how they still need to be driven fast in a big sea. There prices seam more realistic both new and 2nd hand but as someone said previously a different boat to a scorpion.
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Old 01 March 2005, 00:28   #17
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big question danny is whats ur budget. most good ribs scorpion especially are like buying a new a bmw and do reach some very dizzy and silly prices.. i rekon i need atleast 45-50k for a 8.1m which aint happening
As Scorpion wrote me :The starting price for a 7.5m fitted with an 150hp Evinrude DI outboard is 27,630.00 plus VAT; whilst for an 8.1m the price for the 8.1m Scorpion fitted with the 200hp Evinrude E-Tec starts at 30,900.00 plus VAT.

We would buy a boat only, without most of the gadgeds and complet it overhere by ourselves. That always saves a lot of money.
We have a good price/deal with Yamaha and all of the SS parts are made by ourselves.

In that way you can make something unique.

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Old 01 March 2005, 05:33   #18
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I did over 2500 miles last year in my Scorpion and in my opinion there is nothing on the market to beat it at the moment. The build quality and attention to detail is far and above anything you can expect on larger more expensive and complex motorboats. The aftersales has been better than BMW and the seakeeping is stunning. It has been stuffed twice - both due to driver error. If you can improve it and know what you are talking about Mr Jelley is very open to suggestions.

You can break anything if you really try or are stupid enough.
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Something around 7.5 meters wich handels very good in high waves end with enough storage-space to keep thing dry. Ofcourse they all have space for 4 seats.
Not heavyer than 1200 kg and a console with enough space for some elektronics at good heigth.
We will visit the Ribbex to see most of the Ribs next of June.

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We will have the BananaShark at the show and it will meet the above requirements although it is not the normal layout for a RIB - There is a 6' (Nearly 2m) locker under the foredeck, seats 5 and rough water won't be a problem as the race boat has proved many times! Here's a thread with some photos - Leisure BananaShark on the water! The CE marking is mostly done and more photos and pricing to follow soon - watch this space! There will also be a seperate thread with "The making of" from plug to mould to finished boat.
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..There will also be a seperate thread with "The making of" from plug to mould to finished boat.
Cool. I'll look forward to that.
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