Revenger 27 on Ebay - Page 2

cuttlefish · 02 October 2009, 11:44

What about linking some stunning Revengers at stunning prices?
I suppose the 715 might be good value - don't about the seakeeping, tho. Don't want another Bayliner situation.

codprawn · 02 October 2009, 11:53

NO Revenger will ever be like a Binliner!!!

cuttlefish · 02 October 2009, 11:55

You are not surely saying that it would have been able to go out in a 715 in seas like the Whitby ones?

codprawn · 02 October 2009, 12:09

Some extra weight in the nose and a good driver then yes.

RIB are incredible in the rough.

Watch this video on Youtube - the condition are terrible - best views are from 1/2 way through. The RIB type boat is only about 7m I would guess. Almost like the waves aren't there.

52kt winds after earlier 84kts - 10 - 12 M waves..........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f7t5...er_profilepage

cuttlefish · 02 October 2009, 12:28

However, I take your point, but the 715 (even with extra weight in the nose)? The 715? !!! ???

If you're right, I'll have to go one some very serious thought.

codprawn · 02 October 2009, 12:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by rupert

However, I take your point, but the 715 (even with extra weight in the nose)? The 715? !!! ???

If you're right, I'll have to go one some very serious thought.

Watch it from about 3/4 of the way - in a dark room helps!!!

Remember the more weight in a RIB the better in conditions like that - full tanks and a few extra crew helps a lot.

To be honest I would be happier in a Humber 7m or a Delta 7m - the Revenger is more sportsboat but it does have an incredible hull - the nose is a bit pointy for a following sea though but driver ability also comes into it.

cuttlefish · 02 October 2009, 12:42

was that in the film, Cod?

codprawn · 02 October 2009, 12:53

They use 2 different RIBS - both under 7m - pretty standard types - the special thing about them is the lifting and recovery methods to enable them to launch/recover in any conditions. The tubes are often foam filled.

http://www.esvagt.dk/Default.aspx?ID=80

http://www.esvagt.dk/Default.aspx?ID=28

Just look at the conditions!!!

Tony · 02 October 2009, 13:59

Hi Rupert.
The Revenger is very good. I nearly bought one (or two), They have great top end and good in the rough. Living where you do I would not consider a 715....too small. It will handle all the Crap out there but you won't. It will be wet,bumpy and not fun. Go for an 8m plus Revenger Cougar Scorpion, and a dozen others which are good.You need to decide what you want it for? Revengers are sports type ribs,so wont be as good in the rough as a osprey or Humber etc. But by golly very quick..I didnt buy a Revenger because it didnt seem as good a deal as the Cougar at the time.
just my 2 cents..
Tony

danny · 02 October 2009, 18:00

I have bought one Revenger a few weeks ago in the UK.
We have retubed it ourselves with black tubes from Henshaw.

I will repaint the original Revenger console in black semi gloss and I have bought 4 new racingseats wich will be placed on a homemade aluminium suspension system.

cuttlefish · 02 October 2009, 19:15

Your two pence, as they say, is invaluable (as you know the waters around where I live) and is much appreciated.
Thanks for the advice re. the 715. So, it has to be an 8 mt +. I think I intuitively knew that, but it is good to spell it out.

I am in contact with most of the major manufacturers mentioned on here, trying to get feedback, and also looking for good used boats at the right price. Here are a few of those contacted and with whom I have ongoing talks: Redbay, Excalibur, Cougar (NZ), Carson, Scorpion, XS, and so on). Not all are easy to deal with via e-mail (they probably prefer to go out ribbing, and I can't blame them). It might also be my fault - I probably ask too many questions. However, when I am thinking of spending a fair dollop of cash, I like to be molly-coddled a bit, and I like to think that I am getting the right boat; i.e. that I won't want to change it next year. I also want to feel safe in it, as I travel with my family. I also think that some (not all) ribs are a little over-priced for the year, but I could be wrong in that.

Anyway, just wanted to say thanks to you (and to other who chip in from time to time) as I value your comments as sincere attempts

to help, as indeed are many of those made on this site.

Rupert.

p.s. If anybody has a boat for sale and wants to negotiate, I am here. It is easy to work out what I want by checking my posts.

Hi Rupert.
The Revenger is very good. I nearly bought one (or two), They have great top end and good in the rough. Living where you do I would not consider a 715....too small. It will handle all the Crap out there but you won't. It will be wet,bumpy and not fun. Go for an 8m plus Revenger Cougar Scorpion, and a dozen others which are good.You need to decide what you want it for? Revengers are sports type ribs,so wont be as good in the rough as a osprey or Humber etc. But by golly very quick..I didnt buy a Revenger because it didnt seem as good a deal as the Cougar at the time.
just my 2 cents..
Tony

cuttlefish · 05 October 2009, 12:54

How much did it cost to retube your revenger?

Tx.
rupert

I have bought one Revenger a few weeks ago in the UK.
We have retubed it ourselves with black tubes from Henshaw.

danny · 05 October 2009, 19:19

I have send you a pm.

Cookee · 06 October 2009, 08:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by codprawn

Some extra weight in the nose and a good driver then yes.

RIB are incredible in the rough.

Watch this video on Youtube - the condition are terrible - best views are from 1/2 way through. The RIB type boat is only about 7m I would guess. Almost like the waves aren't there.

52kt winds after earlier 84kts - 10 - 12 M waves..........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f7t5...er_profilepage

Codprawn - I really think that you cannot compare those rescue boats with the sort of leisure boats that people buy for general use, they are built for a job, and they are relatively slow and have no value as a sport boat whatsoever, and whilst Ribs are good in the rough most are either copied from or designed around sport boat hulls, and therefore the only difference is the tube! I would like to see you out in your boat in 52kt winds after earlier 84kts - 10 - 12 M waves.........." picking people out of the water!

Carl · 06 October 2009, 08:06

cuttlefish · 06 October 2009, 11:24

and I prefer fast boats. However, wherever I live, and in the kind of seas you get sometimes, a good solid boat like Cod talks about is always useful.

codprawn · 06 October 2009, 12:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cookee

Codprawn - I really think that you cannot compare those rescue boats with the sort of leisure boats that people buy for general use, they are built for a job, and they are relatively slow and have no value as a sport boat whatsoever, and whilst Ribs are good in the rough most are either copied from or designed around sport boat hulls, and therefore the only difference is the tube! I would like to see you out in your boat in 52kt winds after earlier 84kts - 10 - 12 M waves.........." picking people out of the water!

A deep V hull is just that - there are some differences but not many.

The main difference is in the bow - rough water ribs tend to have fuller bow sections and upturned noses.

Looking at the photos of a very similar SOLAS rescue boat the hull is actually not as deep a V as mine so why should it be better in the rough???

The tubes aren't as big either...........

SeanSunseeker · 06 October 2009, 20:31

The rescue boats you have in the pictures are designed for many purposes, however most importantly as well as an ability to function in adverse conditions they have to be able to carry big loads, so need the extra volume of the hull. Ultimately a deep 'v' hull does restrict space and is not as stable a platform when stationary.

codprawn · 06 October 2009, 21:52

It is when you have a wider beam and bigger tubes. Anyway that hull doesn't look much different to most normal RIB hulls.

I think weight and centre of gravity are the most important. My RIB has 500L of under deck fuel tanks and is of pretty heavy build -when full the extra fuel makes a hell of a difference. It is almost 500kgs deep down beneath the water line.