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Old 28 September 2005, 14:40   #51
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He's got a point about a potential Govt run service though....Braziers @ the slipway? Honk if you're with us? etc etc.
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Old 28 September 2005, 14:48   #52
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i totaly agree with dounut

i think anyone that critises the rnli should talk to one of ther next of kin
and see what comitment means,


little less rnli bashing on here would not go a miss

Id agree with that one!!

My husband is a cox/mech of an alb. It is his full time job, along with training twice a week he is on call 24/7 bar 2 weekends a month He cannot go more than spitting distance whilst on call.

Commitment??
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Old 28 September 2005, 15:03   #53
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Commitment??
Choice?
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Old 28 September 2005, 15:05   #54
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He's got a point about a potential Govt run service though....Braziers @ the slipway? Honk if you're with us? etc etc.
Just a bunch of greedy fire-fighters being manipulated by their "union" leader.... Sorry, they don't realise quite how good their lot actually is compared to the real world...
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I agree it his choice he enjoys the job, but still quite a commitment.
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Old 28 September 2005, 16:16   #56
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Choice?
Yes, choice. The decision to commit such time is down to choice, however if people are prepared to do that, I can only respect them more. That 24/7 on call, over time, adds up to more training and experience than people on this forum could ever wish for from a charitable emergency response service, and I hope that should you ever require their service you wil respect their choice. The choice made has clearly been made in the interests of everyone else, not the individual crew member/coxswain, and I admire that selflessness.

I've never called upon the coastguard/rnli, as I've never needed to. However I still make regular donations in an effort to ensure that the people prepared to put the safety of other water users above their own lives (both in a physical and social sense) are at least able to do it in suitable, and high quality kit.

Seems some people just need something new to moan about every month.
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sod the Government, they'd look to make cost savings in the RNLI just to buy more bullets for Iraq.
That get's my vote!
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Yes, can you you imagine the RNLI being absorbed into the civil service, than privatised... Group4 or someone running it!

Nate, that's quite an entertaining post... I'm not a great fan of idealised models, but if you read that one in a philosophical frame of mind it works well.

Now, I wonder where every RIBnet member would place themselves on your scale of 1 to 5?

I reckon I'm a 2 struggling to reach 3!

A couple of thoughts...

I've made a career from working with experienced people.... unfortunately their experience was mostly bad!

Arriving at a new pastime on the water at the age of 35, I quickly realised that I couldn't pick things up as quickly as a youngster. However, good quality training was invaluable as a "jump start" and seven years later I value both the training and the experience.

And to conclude this little gem(!) from me, I'll refer to a little bit of codprawn's verbal diaorrhoea... do you know what the first stage of the Mountain Leadersip Certificate is? Well I'll tell you, it's "Gain personal Experience".

I thank you. Goodnight.
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Yes, choice. The decision to commit such time is down to choice, however if people are prepared to do that, I can only respect them more. That 24/7 on call, over time, adds up to more training and experience than people on this forum could ever wish for from a charitable emergency response service, and I hope that should you ever require their service you wil respect their choice. The choice made has clearly been made in the interests of everyone else, not the individual crew member/coxswain, and I admire that selflessness.

I've never called upon the coastguard/rnli, as I've never needed to. However I still make regular donations in an effort to ensure that the people prepared to put the safety of other water users above their own lives (both in a physical and social sense) are at least able to do it in suitable, and high quality kit.

Seems some people just need something new to moan about every month.
Firstly, Jimbo, I'm not "moaning" about anything, so I presume that remark was not aimed at me? I contribute to the RNLI (offshore member thingy, or whatever it's called) and a good friend and erstwhile colleague, of mine is a crewmember on a Welsh lifeboat… (wait ‘til they find out he’s English ).
My point is two-fold, firstly I think that the RNLI should be a full time, nationally funded (by some form of “sea tax”) which would, I hope, mean personnel would train everyday, much as they are supposed to in the Fire-service, giving them more chance in an emergency situation.
Secondly, having served on a station with so called “volunteers” as well as full time crews; I am extremely sceptical when people claim that they are “doing it for the good of others”. That’s just my opinion, based on my experience of retained fire fighters, retained Ambulance crews and “special” Constables. I’m sure that we will disagree on this, but if we all held the same views the world wouldn’t be very exciting would it?
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In the interests of a balanced debate.. is the above statement strictly true?
No - RNLI Volunteers do get paid, not much, more of a inconvience payment.

In my opinion as a RNLI crew member (so probably one sided) the RNLI is a great service (one of the best in the world). Before the new college the RNLI sent crew members to externa training centres - fleetwood etc costing allot of money.
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