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Old 28 September 2005, 06:32   #31
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Not moderated really, just moved a bit

Didn't seem to have much to do with the Southampton Boat Show, so I split the thread.

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Old 28 September 2005, 07:45   #32
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I will not say this to often but I belive that the RNLI have built the perfect tool for the job And at 125,000 it is very cheep.
We obviously have different values, how can you think that a 23' rib at 125k is very cheap.

What on earth is the spec of such a boat that it can command such a price, or is it a case of think of a number and double it!
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Old 28 September 2005, 08:15   #33
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It wasn't so much the Atlantic I was complaining about - more like the new big hard boats. MOST of the RNLI rescues are carried out with the smallest and cheapest boats - rescues where a traditional lifeboat are NEEDED are quite a bit rarer these days - most accidents occur in the summer!!!

Again I am NOT attacking the RNLI - just saying they would be better off spending their resources in a different less glamourous way. For example FAR more hovercraft would be useful - especially in areas like the Burry Estuary etc but they have to make do with the smallest lifeboat class there is.

Also the RNLI are very good at bumping up the figures - I know a few people who have been recued when they didn't want to be!!!

One rescue lot who look VERY useful are these

http://www.venturers-search-and-rescue.org.uk/index.htm

Very good outfit using stunning Ocean Dynamics RIBS - and there are loads more like these around the UK.

The RNLI is getting TOO business orientated these days. I was shocked to discover that many of the crews don't have any other boating experience and are "trained" - it USED to be people who hadd the sea in their blood for generations that were picked!!!
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Old 28 September 2005, 08:29   #34
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venture rescuers - assuming these are the guys with the rib will call sign "venture rescue 1" who nearly destroyed my boat in the solent...Sure their intentions are top notch, but seemed to be lacking in the competence department - the rnli on the other hand are first rate in my own limited experience...
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Old 28 September 2005, 08:39   #35
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Ah the Venturers. Also a charitable organisation supported by donations, they are legends in the Solent and will often be first on the scene. The crew are mostly under 18 (even under 16) although the skippers are qualified. Now, it would not behove me to denigrate their activities one bit, 'cos you never know.....but.....sometimes, if they catch you even frowning on-board a boat, they'll be chucking you lines and circling you like hungry sharks. And don't even think about waving to your mates in another boat......that's a distress call!

All-in-all, I'd rather they were there than not though, and these days, they do work closely with the Coastguard.

One of the most unfortunate periods in their history, was the sabotaging of their equipment when either on-shore or moored off the Beaulieu River, by persons unknown, which was a disgraceful episode.

Sorry, just spotted this gem:

"The RNLI is getting TOO business orientated these days. I was shocked to discover that many of the crews don't have any other boating experience and are "trained" - it USED to be people who hadd the sea in their blood for generations that were picked!!!"

Make sure you only get rescued by someone who has salt water in their veins matey! You can just see it: "Hi there! Admiral Codprawn here awaiting rescue. What? You're a chippy by trade? No thanks, I'll wait for a pro"
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Old 28 September 2005, 09:08   #36
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You can never ever put a price on someones life.

If the RNLI have the money, which they do, then they should spend it how they see fit IMHO.

It should not be for wanna-bee's and arm chair experts to judge what they do.
No offence intended to anyone on here.

They are the experts in this field in the UK.

I have the up most respect for them and the crew.

As someone stated "bollocks the size of melons"
How very true.

How many of us would go out in all kinds of weather to save anothers life and not get a penny for it?

Just think if, god forbid, its you that that very expensive rib plucks from the sea one day how pleased you will be that they did spend that money.

All IMHO

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Old 28 September 2005, 09:53   #37
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I couldn't agree more.....Just what I was thinking Jon
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You can never ever put a price on someones life.
Jon, are you sure? I know folk who are worth about a tenner.

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Jon, are you sure? I know folk who are worth about a tenner.

Jeff, that a tenner more than some I know
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The only thing that I find sad with the RNLI is that fact that they are looking to reduce or do away with the Sea Check/Safety part.
Someone on high wants to cut the cost there.

This is very sad I feel.
Whilst it is the crews whom are the hero's of the RNLI its the Sea Check/Safety team that I feel are its public face.

They do a great job and it would be a shame if they were to go.

After all no one can disagree that prevention is better than cure.

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