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Old 04 September 2014, 06:11   #11
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Good point, didn't think of test opportunities at the boat show, will see if I can get the chance to get time off from work.

Ribcraft had a 4.8 on show at Seaworks, I don't know if they're taking it to soton.


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Old 04 September 2014, 06:20   #12
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Looks like they're taking the entire range pretty much: Next Show: Southampton Boat Show, 12th-21st, September « Ribcraft Blog | Rigid Inflatable Boats | Yeovil, Somerset, UK
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Old 04 September 2014, 08:48   #13
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I'd go for 4.7m upwards - maybe even stretch to something over 5 if you can afford it. One quick search reveals a Humber 5m (reputedly a well built boat) with a 75HP engine.

It's 2001 which might put you off but it's only 4K. I have just bought a 2006 Ribcraft with low miles on the engine (which I have dramatically increased in a few weeks of great use!) and am delighted and sold a 2001 4m 4oHP RIB that was, if I say so myself, very well looked after and got a good price for it (over 4K through a broker) so there are good boats out there.

Good hunting!
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Old 04 September 2014, 08:49   #14
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Firstly welcome to Ribnet!

Iv'e mixed your paragraphs slightly to make my answer flow a little better, but not altered the content.

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SIZE?
Boat – medium, between 4 to 5 meters, it is a compromise between the practicalities of: storage, towing, handling, running cost and the use we would like to get from it.

WHERE STOWED?
On a trailer, around the house or in the garage.
If you put it in the garage, before you go to any boat show - measure your garage!

Been there, done that, except the layout of my house means I can't store mine outside....

- if you have a sinlge door I can almost guarantee it;s 2.1m wide, thus restricting you to a 2m beam boat. (trust me, deflating the toobs every trip to get it in & out will drive you insane!) That in turn almost precludes side by side Jockeys due to the lack of beam.

- The trailer will need to go in as well. There's not many sub 2m wide braked trailers out there...

- LOA. This is a very fluid dimension when you compare tit to the length of a garage: I have managed to get a 5m boat into a 5.7m garage - just.
Things to remember: - take into account how far the engine pokes out the rear of the toobs (that dimension will drop by a couple of inches if you trim it right & turn it hard to port or Stbd); Trailers also usually are spec-ed in "suitable for" lengths - assuming a hard boat. Ribs have toobs that overhang & cones that poke out the stern. The "suitable for" size of a trailer can usually safely take a metre off for a Rib (the hard hull is less than the LOA)- thus preventing the rib trailer phenomenon of the mega length drawbar and potentuially allowing you to shut the door!

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Engine - doesn’t come to order but I expect up to 60HP, again a compromise between the practicality of: use, handling and running cost.

WHERE USED?
The boat be used mainly on the sea, with occasional river and canal (and very occasional lake) use.
If you are seruious about rivers & canals definitely look at either a 4- stroke or an aux. Canals & rivers generally are in the "walking pace" speed limit - so your engine will spend hours at just above tickover. Modern 4- strokes are way more eficient at that sort of operation, other option is for that use you park a wee 4/5Hp on the transom & let it do the work! I did the Falkirk wheel 10th Birthday - and drove 14 miles to & fro on the Forth & Clyde at a sedate 4 knots - and nearly trebled my 23 knot consumption figures i nthe process!

Search the forums for fuel consumoption - there's been plenty of argume- I mean discussions on the matter, but the general rules seems to be 1L/mile regardless of engine / hull size as long as they are in proportion and you cruise around the 20-25 knot mark.


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BOATS SO FAR CONSIDERED

Avon Searider & Adventurer
Tornado
Ribcraft
Humber
Humber O-Pro is their Deep V equivalent to the Avon SR. The destroyer is the same basic hull but without the spray rails.(or whatever you call them!) - net result is a smoother ride in waves, but arguably slightly less precice handling. (search for the two names - there was a good comparison thread a while ago). The Assault is ther answer to the Avon Adventurer - a flatter V so better fuel economy for a given size, but very uncomfortable ride if it gets choppy.

Also if you are looking at used Humbers the O-Pro was a rename of the Attaque (and that was a rename of the "Seasafe"!) - many confuse Attaque with Assault, which is a totally different boat! Again do a search - there is a thread on old Humbers out there somewhere!

All the above are good - but it wil llikely be the price & internal layout that makes your decision for you!
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Old 04 September 2014, 12:01   #15
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Hi 9D280,

Your experience tips have been really useful, good to have a heads up on all the points you raise.

I have a single garage but if push comes to shove I have access to not quite a double garage but with a much larger door. The plan is to cover the boat & leave outside the house most during Spring & Summer and in the garage in the Autumn & winter months. Therefore size really remains an issue - 5 mtrs, when factoring trailer and engine overhang is the absolute maximum; therefore, sub 5 mtr is more preferable.

When it comes to the river and canal use, I have a short shaft Honda 2.5 Hp 4 stroke. I purchased this new in 2011 for my tender and it is hardly been used. Unsure, as it is a short shaft, if it will reach the water - I will suck it and see. Otherwise, I take note of your advice of a four stroke; which I would prefer anyway - a Yam or Honda (the new Suzuki's are not likely to be around) would be nice but availability is the thing.

On paper, the Avon Searider 4.7 , Ribcraft 4.8 or Tornado 4.5/4.8 metres (not sure of the Humber, due to size issues - sub 5 metre, but will look) does appear to tick a lot of boxes (with out the direct experience) but like every thing else, when it is second hand, it is down to availability and price.

Which is why I was asking, given all the different manufactures (I am confident the ones I have mentioned are pretty sound) but they may not be around. Therefore, are there ones which I should avoid?

Thank you for your contribution.
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Old 04 September 2014, 12:06   #16
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Therefore, are there ones which I should avoid?
Anything made in China/Egypt.

Ask here first, before parting with ANY money
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Old 04 September 2014, 14:18   #17
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I don't think it would be too comfortable 6 up in a sub 5m boat.

I was initially looking at a 4.8 Ribcraft but when I actually took a look at one, found it far too small for my needs (very similar to your own) and was very lucky to find a 5.4m Searider. The extra space really does make all the difference. It's a shame you can't store a larger boat.
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Old 05 September 2014, 01:39   #18
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Good Morning
6 up on a Ribcraft 4.8 is a little tight. My wife, 2 daughters and myself cruise the south coast of Ireland without any problems. When I was looking for a Rib at the time I was looking for something that would tick alot of the boxes that I had set out and the Ribcraft done that , sound build, dry ride, great second hand values, light on fuel, and easy to transport and launch. One of the most important issues for me was that I could garage it for the winter months.
My garage doors are 6 1/2 foot wide and the boat is 16 1/2 foot on the trailer ,
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Old 05 September 2014, 02:21   #19
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One has just gone up for sale this morning on the RIBnet 'For Sale' section.... Nothing to do with me, I should add!
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Old 05 September 2014, 02:24   #20
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We have 2 Ribcraft 4.8's available currently via www.BoatsandOutboards4Sale.co.uk

We also have coming up a Coastline 6.5m Rib without engine, priced around 4,995 - we will package it up when a suitable motor comes in.


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