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Old 28 December 2006, 13:04   #31
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You keep saying how much shipping costs are - as you are a landrover dealer can't you slip some tubes in with some spare engines or something - or even stuffed into the back of a Defender being shipped over???
The freight cost (by sea) on a set of collapsed tubes would not be too bad - I'd pay that, the problem is it's another couple of grand which I don't want to spend right now, and another lot of gluing which I'm not confident about doing and no boat for the rest of the summer and then the problem of not being able to do it outdoors in the winter and not having anywhere big enough to fit them under cover.

I should say by the way, the failure of the fitting of the new tube ends was entirely due to my lack of talent with manoeuvring large bits of floppy hypalon around, and no bad reflection on Paul Tilley who supplied them, the quality of them was excellent as expected from a supplier with Paul's reputation.

The freight by air (DHL) would be horrendous - it cost me £100 to get two tube ends here and it would probably cost nearer £1000 to get a whole set of tubes. Equally the cost of sending a new hull/tubes by sea would be about £2000 - I measured my boat this morning, it's about 5.8x2.28x1.5m on a cradle which is 20cbm at £100 a cbm. Mind you if Humber kindly offered me a new hull and tubes to fit the console/engines on, I'd certainly find the two grand to get it here
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Old 28 December 2006, 13:06   #32
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I go to the grocery store and they are always out of key items, sometimes for months.

Hey, but living remote builds character.....yea right!

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I know exactly what you mean - same here.... haven't seen a decent potato for about three months

But you are right, its character building and in most cases (excluding boats) all good clean fun that teaches you all sorts of things.

You do have better boating weather over there though...
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Old 29 December 2006, 09:38   #33
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Just back from a couple of hours on the water with the "mini sausaged" tube and the concept certainly works fine, though despite sealing it around the end of the old tube with Sikaflex there is still a slight air leak from the old tube - must be an art to get them airtight along the seam I think!

So a full length sausage is going to be the answer I think, with a bit of pressure in, this one shows no inclination to pop out even though there is pressure behind it, so a full length one would never move. The contact area inside the old tube is only about a foot long.

I forgot to take a photo of the sausage before I put it in, but basically its the two tube ends Paul made, with six inches or so of tube on each, glued back to back. Apart from the tyre valve you wouldn't know the difference from a proper tube (I deliberately left the rubbing strake off till I know what is going to happen, because it was such a bugger to get off). Of course a full length one (filling the whole of the old aft chamber on each side) would have a proper Leafield inflation valve on it - and a PRV this time around - which would stick out through the hole left where the original used to be, and I don't think any casual observer would notice any difference from the original setup.

Best of all no F gluing

Getting there, definitely getting there, what I now need is two 67 inch long sausages with built in inflation and pressure relief valves
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Old 29 December 2006, 10:26   #34
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Well there is only one word left to describe this

DISASTER

Do NOT ever try this repair it is TOTALLY IMPOSSIBLE. I now just have £250 more worth of scrap hypalon and a scrap boat with half a tube missing and no way to even bodge it up to get a couple more days use out of it. Tube end sticks to itself, to you, to every F thing except where it is supposed to be and once I did get it more or less on I realised there was no way at all that the ends were going to meet when I was 3/4 of the way around, it just goes all over the place. I take my hat off to anybody who works with inflatable boat repair for a living because I'd shoot myself inside a week.

Guessing it cost about £10000 all in with the other stuff I have bought, all for 40 hours worth of use. Fun as it is, I can't afford a £250 per hour hobby on my salary.

I wish I could sue Humber for the cost, stress and inconvenience of this bloody boat. I really do but I doubt I'd stand a chance and anyway I've wasted enough money on this heap of junk without wasting more on blood sucking lawyers. I think its time to draw a line under this disaster and get rid of it.

Thanks to all for the help and support, without you I would have given up in despair six months ago, but this chapter of my life is finished.... before it kills me.

DO NOT TRY THIS REPAIR YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!
Hi Stephan,

I recall recently on a thread of some person who ordered the sponsons replacement chambers and slipped them inside the existing ones and they glued and inflated them. It seemed like a simple but useful fix.

I didnt study all the responses but this was a recent (week or two before Christmas) thread. It may be useful to you cos it looked simple and quick to me.

I wouldnt try this myself as I would not have the determination required. Sort of Chuck it and get another.

Good luck with it anyway.

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Old 29 December 2006, 11:33   #36
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I recall recently on a thread of some person who ordered the sponsons replacement chambers and slipped them inside the existing ones and they glued and inflated them. It seemed like a simple but useful fix.

I didnt study all the responses but this was a recent (week or two before Christmas) thread. It may be useful to you cos it looked simple and quick to me.

I wouldnt try this myself as I would not have the determination required. Sort of Chuck it and get another.

Good luck with it anyway.

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Would it be this one?

Yeah chuck it and get another is sooo appealing, if only I had the money I'd get a big Cat digger and trample it into the ground then bury the wreckage! But then if only I had lots of money I would do lots of things

Having said that this morning reminded me what fabulous fun it is (got to give Humber credit for the performance, the boats really do go well and are so stable and forgiving) so I suppose that is why I persevere
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what I now need is two 67 inch long sausages with built in inflation and pressure relief valves

i recomennd a pare ov dolfins. shuv de fkin fings hed furst upn de toobs wiv jus de tale stikkin owt an yoov gott a bote wiv trimm tabbs az wel.

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Would it be this one?

Yeah chuck it and get another is sooo appealing, if only I had the money I'd get a big Cat digger and trample it into the ground then bury the wreckage! But then if only I had lots of money I would do lots of things

Having said that this morning reminded me what fabulous fun it is (got to give Humber credit for the performance, the boats really do go well and are so stable and forgiving) so I suppose that is why I persevere
Yep, thats the idea alright. I didnt realise you posted it.

You seem to be getting there. Half the fun is in getting there isnt it. Bit like the Griswalds in National Lampoon, Chevy Chase.
I mean if it was always a case of stickin in the key, we would all have learned nothing over the years. Character Building I seem to recall a boss said to me once, but he was a W..ker.

Anyway Good luck with it. It seem to me tho that many of teh boats that I see for sale are recent projects and they are being sold for less than the cost of repair, so be careful what you spend on repair, or you may end up burning it.
My plan is to spend all my money and leave nothing.

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Old 29 December 2006, 13:53   #40
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No.

After the last six months I cannot agree!!! I am (would be) quite happy to get into a boat and for it not to explode.

Garf's idea seems quite sound though, it would give some extra propulsion too if you carried an electric cattle prod and gave them a dig in the butt (does a dolphin have a butt??) when you needed some afterburners
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