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Old 14 September 2012, 08:31   #51
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..did he have anything to do with the designs
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Old 14 September 2012, 10:06   #52
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Oh dear, we are going on a thread drift here. Paul told me one night that he had bought the moulds for the BMW 5.5m hull from someone in Cheshire. Unfortunately, what he didn't know until later was that a set had also been sold to Northcraft at the same time also with "royalties". There are some real sharks in the rib business. Anyway BWM and Northcraft existed alongside each other for many years probably because they were so far apart it didn't really matter.

Paul had an earlier company before BWM that also used the distinctive concave hull shape. I think it was called Stellacraft. Not many were built and he re-badged the company BWM.

Having got the concave bow shape he then built the 6 and 7m ribs to a similar design. The other hull shapes, like the XP21, well that bears a remarkable resemblance to a Phantom powerboat hull, which then became the Tohatsu hull shape.

There was also the big 8 and 9m BWM ribs, can't quite remember the model name or where they came from, but they have quite distinctive upswept chines at the bow similar to Fairey Marine powerboats.
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Old 14 September 2012, 10:45   #53
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These big moulds really got around. Check page 12 of this report. Loxton Marine used them after BWM. Some ended up in Northern Ireland and became the basis for South Down Marine's Barracuda and then moved to Ferryman Boats in Derry as the FRM 900. Others ended up in Poland where they underpin the Parker 900 RS.
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Well thank you, Pete and Wilk for that interesting info. and appologies for causing a drift, I've no issue with the hull just interested in the history.
I was starting to worry when Dai started laughing at my Q.

Plz carry on your fasinating tales therethenthen great
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The early BWM ribs were supplied by Northcraft, then, all of a sudden, they were built in-house......
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Okay, lets clear this up...WE brought the BWM tooling and rights from Paul Lemmer in 1996, Paul stayed on as our salesman...but we parted a year later...The BWM products were produced and ran by Steve Loxton – Steve remodelled the hulls (like the anti-stuff bow which was actually Pauls idea) and produced new consoles and seats but he emigrated to New Zealand in 1999. All of the tooling was brought back up from the west coast. In 2000 – 2006 BWM products were produced by Rod Ross-Smith, he made a nice job of tidying the moulds and also produced new tooling, we did a deal with Animal (the clothing company) and Rod produced some quality, good looking Ribs...Unfortunately in 2006 Rod had some health problems, so once again all of the tooling was moved from the Hamble...since then we have renewed all of the tooling again to stepped hulls and smaller Jet Ribs (some designed by Adam Younger) – we have also produced our own diesel range of engines which we launched at Dusseldorf Boat Show Germany in January this year, since we have been very very busy!
If you are interested you can see that we are still alive and kicking from our website BWM Ribs - Home - We are also getting back into racing as we are doing the Cowes –Monte Carlo Venture Cup...
Hope this clears up some of the unknown bits???
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The early BWM ribs were supplied by Northcraft, then, all of a sudden, they were built in-house......
No, Paul built his own hulls at the same time as Northcraft were building theirs.

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That was before we got involved pre-1996
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northcraft also built the deepsea range for paul lemmer and henshaws supplied some of the tubes for a short period . IF i remember correctly the bwm rapier was a splash of a revenger hard boat hull ,i seem to remember having a few phone conversations with Mike Sloggett owner of revenger about this .
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This thread should have tickets, and no disrespect to anyone I wish some of you boys would open up a bit more often

pours a *virtual drink* all round

now where were we ?
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