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Old 12 September 2012, 18:00   #21
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The XR24s would later become the rib of choice for smuggling funny cigarettes across the straights of Gibraltar.
The Vector operation HQ was just down the hill from me. During the Bloor/Kidd era, they were heavily into rib racing. I seem to remember single and twin rig Rude Ocean Pros being the power choice at the time. The Vagabond, Mirage and XR24 were their rib offerings, the Vulcan the hardboat.
Gary ('Cosworth Mirage' Ebay member) has a Mirage from that era with the a mad 500+ hp Cozzy lump in it.

The Vulcan was used by the tobacco smugglers in Gib as it had good deck space. A couple of chancers whom I knew well, set up the business in Gib selling Vulcans and Merc XR2s to the smugglers. Business was brisk for a while, as the smugglers often had to abandon their boats sharpish and require replacements for cash.
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Old 13 September 2012, 03:10   #22
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Oh yes I remember Dave Charrington and the then huge 8.2m Osprey Falcon with 2 x Yam 200s, quite simply a superb rib.

Now we know why the boat had 4 huge fuel tanks on board. I sat waiting for him to fill it up in the Shell garage in Kyle. Two nozzles half an hour and 500 later (in 1992) he was finished. The fuel attendant them bubbled him to the police for carrying more than was allowed in a trailer, he was only going 500 yards to the slipway.


OMG what a blast from the past!!! I used to race this boat back in the day when i worked for Mike Armitage --- I filled it up at the Shell garage outside Portsmouth at the bottom of the motorway near the ferry port..... 4 nozzles in and uber cash later i walked in to pay - and it was the time of the Corgi Model Ferraris and different cars - the woman behind the till thought i was having a laugh when i asked for the token - she gave up gave me the biggest ferrari model above the cigarettes....

Alan Priddy took an awesome picture of me in the vertical out by Nab Tower doing the round solent Rib race - which i won!! hehehehe - sorry Graeme, I was gonna stop when you were popped out - but you waved to say you were fine, so i carried on.... hahaha - That same boat i sold to a couple of lads that came up from Spain in a bullet proof car..... and had to take them out in the lake district to teach them how to drive it...... they asked me to go and drive it for them.... I declined as the last boat was shot up by the police form the air...

Those really were the days, such fun.........

Whose up for round solent rib blasting again - retracing what we used to do??
Safely of course - competitive fun without it being a race???
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The Vector operation HQ was just down the hill from me. During the Bloor/Kidd era, they were heavily into rib racing.
It was Pete Kidd whilst he was living in Salcombe that got me into boat building, he was building the first race RIB for me and was spending a lot of time going backwards and forwards to Malaysia where he now lives and wasn't getting the job done so I enlisted the help of Kevin to finish the job - been inhaling styrene fumes ever since!

(When I say enlisted the help of Kevin - what I mean is Kevin finished it and I helped/hindered/paid the bills!)
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In our Scotrib race event of 1993 we met the Gibraltan team of Dave Soulsby and Tim Spinks who arrived with an all black Northcraft? Self Determination and black dry suit (possible clues to occupation) Miles Jennings was also racing a vector
there were two stages inshore based at rhu and offshre based at Croabh
The courses were simple start, go round the selected island, finish.
it was fairly neck and neck and then the Gib rib tubes were mysterious stabbed at the marina. The inshore winners were Miles Jennings
The offshore event was same basis get to Croabh 120nm next day round Islay then round Jura then final day get back to Rhu
the overall winner of the (real gold) Gold Cup Trophy (which was suppied by Dave Charrington)
was Tim and Dave out of a total of about 47 rib
Paul Lemmer was there in a BWM but lost the tubes right back to the console when he stuffed it off Islay
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there was a large Carson possibly stepped hull Challenger very fast but it had engine /fuel probs
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In our Scotrib race event of 1993 .....
There was an article in Sportsboat & Rib magazine about this event - a lady journalist entered the race in a yellow Delta 5.5 with a Mariner 90, which she managed to scrounge/borrow from various suppliers. The actual RIB was on display at Southampton Boat Show that year and I remember one of the Delta salesmen trying to sell it to me! Twas an interesting read - think I've still got the mag somewhere......

Great days.
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There was an article in Sportsboat & Rib magazine about this event - a lady journalist entered the race in a yellow Delta 5.5 with a Mariner 90,
Great days.
Caroline Carter was one of the Girls!! no end of helpers and advisers
Needless to say they won the Ladies Trophy
Will need to look up my achives
We had sky sport filming us cant find 1993 filming but found this link to 1995
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Was the driver/journalist Verity Woodward?
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Just found the magazine in the DHD 'library'. It's the July 1993 edition of 'Sportsboat & Waterski' (as it was then). A 4-page article with a few pics and results. I'll scan it tonight and lob it on this thread.
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In our Scotrib race event of 1993 we met the Gibraltan team of Dave Soulsby and Tim Spinks who arrived with an all black Northcraft? Self Determination and black dry suit (possible clues to occupation) Miles Jennings was also racing a vector
there were two stages inshore based at rhu and offshre based at Croabh
The courses were simple start, go round the selected island, finish.
it was fairly neck and neck and then the Gib rib tubes were mysterious stabbed at the marina. The inshore winners were Miles Jennings
The offshore event was same basis get to Croabh 120nm next day round Islay then round Jura then final day get back to Rhu
the overall winner of the (real gold) Gold Cup Trophy (which was suppied by Dave Charrington)
was Tim and Dave out of a total of about 47 rib
Paul Lemmer was there in a BWM but lost the tubes right back to the console when he stuffed it off Islay
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there was a large Carson possibly stepped hull Challenger very fast but it had engine /fuel probs
Very interesting posts here down memory lane. It's all coming back to me now......
1993 was a disappointing year for us in Scotland when as Dougcrock recalls my Carson Challenger encountered some problems. I think we got one inshore race in before finally calling it a day There was indeed a fuel issue (contamination) but what finally put us out were more serious issues with the twin surface drives coupled through ZF gearboxes to the twin Cummins 300hp 6BTA diesels. The whole drive system began to disintergrate requiring a complete rebuild and modifications back in our workshops. This seems a good place to give you some of Challenger's statistics: The boat itself was 9m overall but the surface drives added another metre. Without fuel she weighed just under 4 tons. Full load of diesel added 2 tons that gave a range in excess of 1,000 miles. She was propped for all round performance and not just max speed. Thus with full 2 tons of diesel, 6 crew, liferaft, self-righting system, extensive tools and spares kit and other supplies totalling nearly 7 tons on the water, her speed was 42 knots. This rose to a tad over 52 knots as the fuel burned off With a lighter payload she would do more but we live in the real world and top speed isn't everything. The ability to plough on safely and in relative comfort in pretty much most conditions is where you gain on long distance hauls as we tended to do. The hull wasn't a stepped design and in fact is still being produced by Pressman on here (Steve and Caroline Harvey in Cornwall), some mention of which I've read on here previously. I designed this boat about 1989 originally for the US Special Forces and others (even faster with the twin diesel racing engines they were fitted with). Some commercial operators also use them. My old Challenger (photo on Dougcrock's posting) is now in Norway, or was recently, having passed into private ownership after my time and served as a Special Forces standby boat. There's a link somewhere on here to some video on Youtube of her today. No longer orange and without the big wing A frame at the transom that used to hold the self-righting gear. I think it's entitled Challenger Project or something similar. One final snippet referring to Pete7 on the Carson RIBS thread, is that Pete is quite correct about me towing this rig with my trusty 3.9 Classic Range Rover. Land Rover didn't do an extra long wheelbase Rangey at the time. But after towing that monster many thousands of miles, I had one!!
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