Redbay 6.1

Ribzer · 20 July 2014, 09:15

I'm thinking of buying a Redbay 6.1 or maybe a 650 if I can get one. Does anyone have any experience of these or any advice for me? They seem to be expensive but are they worth it?

jambo · 20 July 2014, 09:30

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Originally Posted by Ribzer

I'm thinking of buying a Redbay 6.1 or maybe a 650 if I can get one. Does anyone have any experience of these or any advice for me? They seem to be expensive but are they worth it?

Que Willk!!

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Brian · 20 July 2014, 09:49

Ribzer,
What have you been quoted?

Brian · 20 July 2014, 09:50

Thats too much. Ha Ha.

Maximus · 20 July 2014, 10:29

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Originally Posted by Ribzer

I'm thinking of buying a Redbay 6.1 or maybe a 650 if I can get one. Does anyone have any experience of these or any advice for me? They seem to be expensive but are they worth it?

If it's a choice..I'd for for the 650

..Mick's Bouncer on her is a Good Boat with twins,and pretty Bomb proof!..probably a wider choice of craft/engine combos/layouts too.

Ribzer · 20 July 2014, 10:35

It would be a 2nd hand one I would be buying. I have viewed a few boats and even a 12 year old one can be about £12k. Is this too much for an old boat?

Pikey Dave · 20 July 2014, 11:37

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Originally Posted by Ribzer

It would be a 2nd hand one I would be buying. I have viewed a few boats and even a 12 year old one can be about £12k. Is this too much for an old boat?

Depends on condition & what's on the back. The newer Redbays are better finished than the earlier boats. They are pretty rare & fetch a premium.

Poly · 20 July 2014, 12:02

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Originally Posted by Maximus

If it's a choice..I'd for for the 650

..Mick's Bouncer on her is a Good Boat with twins,and pretty Bomb proof!..probably a wider choice of craft/engine combos/layouts too.

The 6.1 has a bit of a following amongst those in the know. I've not driven both to compare but there can be practical advantages to smaller boats (storage, towing, launching, cheaper engines etc) whilst generally a bigger boat will handle big seas better if that was the driving force then why stop at 650! In real terms buying second hand getting the layout and engines you want in your budget will be the deciding factor.

M.Thornton · 20 July 2014, 12:16

Had a 6.1 Redbay for seven years with a 140 Suzuki ,absolutely bombproof.the best 6m sea boat that I have ever driven

Poly · 20 July 2014, 12:17

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Originally Posted by Ribzer

It would be a 2nd hand one I would be buying. I have viewed a few boats and even a 12 year old one can be about £12k. Is this too much for an old boat?

You've viewed a few boats so probably have a feel for the market. However if it is in ready to go to sea condition and isn't shabby looking or obviously likely to need re tubed or engined soon then I would say any 6m rib from a well respected brand will not really fall far below 10k ish so it's probably about right but the good news is it won't devalue much more provided you look after it.

Ribzer · 20 July 2014, 12:25

One of the boats I'm considering is a 6.1 with a 115 Suzuki with 200 hours. Boat and engine are 13 years old, tubes, hull and trailer in good condition. Price is £12-13k

Maximus · 20 July 2014, 12:47

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One of the boats I'm considering is a 6.1 with a 115 Suzuki with 200 hours. Boat and engine are 13 years old, tubes, hull and trailer in good condition. Price is £12-13k

Sounds like it may be a bit underpowered...they are a good heavy lay up typical British RIB.
Or might just be me!
Price?..All down to condition and spec...I've seen plenty of rough,under maintained newer RIBs and some real low hour well loved Gems that were somewhat older! the difference half a meter makes,is Most evident....on the water!

matt h · 20 July 2014, 14:49

Would be totally underpowered as a heavy well built beast. Just like er indoors. The Suzibishi 115 chucks out 107 at the prop

Ribzer · 20 July 2014, 17:33

I took her for a spin, didn't seem to under powered, 32 knots flat out

Poly · 20 July 2014, 18:23

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Originally Posted by Ribzer

I took her for a spin, didn't seem to under powered, 32 knots flat out

You will discover that to some people on RIBnet that IS underpowered - those people tend to exaggerate and describe things as "totally underpowered" suggesting the boat is not even going to get on the plane! It all depends what you want to use the boat for - if you want to load it with hairy-arsed-divers you might find it is a bit lifeless; if its just you cruising around in reasonable conditions then most people don't do that at >30 knots anyway (although you may burn more fuel sitting at 85% throttle in a 115HP than 60% throttle with a 140).

Personally, I'm of the view that too much power helps you get into trouble quicker (think causative factors of Padstow, and indeed if you look at people who have flipped ribs on here - they never did it in "underpowered" boats). It might mean you have a desire to upgrade in 2 or 3 years time, but you will at least have found your feet by then, and be more confident what you are spending your £ on.

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The Suzibishi 115 chucks out 107 at the prop

really? why do Suzi not conform the international standard which changed in the 1980s - or is it just a rumour, or one magazine article who had a duff motor?

AJ. · 20 July 2014, 19:19

Hmmm, Poly the Suzi comment is normally aimed at me! As I understand it the older Suzi's were not measured at the prop. I was advised at the Southampton boat show last year when the same individual banded that comment at me on the Suzuki stand in ear shot of a sales man that this was the case but the last couple of years they have brought this in line with other OB manufacturers and measure the HP at the prop.

mick · 20 July 2014, 19:56

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I took her for a spin, didn't seem to under powered, 32 knots flat out

Have a look at our Loch Lomond at Easter and Oban vids on here somewhere

Maximus · 20 July 2014, 20:32

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Hmmm, Poly the Suzi comment is normally aimed at me! As I understand it the older Suzi's were not measured at the prop. I was advised at the Southampton boat show last year when the same individual banded that comment at me on the Suzuki stand in ear shot of a sales man that this was the case but the last couple of years they have brought this in line with other OB manufacturers and measure the HP at the prop.

Nothing wrong with Performance on the 'Gay Blue' Alex!

....(well except the colour of course

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AJ. · 20 July 2014, 20:40

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Nothing wrong with Performance on the 'Gay Blue' Alex!

....(well except the colour of course

)

Ha ha.... I owe you a phone call.... My bad. Catch you tomorrow

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willk · 20 July 2014, 21:16

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Originally Posted by Ribzer

I'm thinking of buying a Redbay 6.1 or maybe a 650 if I can get one. Does anyone have any experience of these or any advice for me? They seem to be expensive but are they worth it?

They are both VERY good hulls. I've owned a 6.5 and a friend owns a 6.1 - they're a bit different. The 6.5/650 is heavier and wider and deals with a sea a little easier, but the 6.1 is almost as good, it's just the weight that seals it. The 6.1 is an easier prospect for trailering and "handballing". 115hp is at the bottom end of power for the 6.1m - OKish. 140hp is the same for the 6.5m. Forget about top speed - it's pickup in a sea that's important.

IMO, the 6.1m is well matched by 125/150hp. The 6.5 by 140-175hp. It depends on the seating, console and load - naturally.

Price - decent used examples fetch good money but 12kSTG seems a LITTLE rich for the 6.1/115 combo at that age....