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Old 12 November 2002, 03:29   #1
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Red flag for attracting attention?

Someone mentioned on the minimum equipment thread a useful item of safety equipment: a red flag for getting attention. This is not something I'd previously known about, so I went off to check my small boat guide to the rules of the road.

No mention of red flags there that I could find.

But I did find the "V" flag, (a St Patrick's cross, i.e. white background, red diagonal cross), which means "I am in need of assistance".

Is the red flag an official thing?

Is the V flag in common use? Should I carry one? How many people know what it means?

(and just how am I going to remember what all the other flags mean?)

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Old 12 November 2002, 03:44   #2
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I do believe that was me with the red flag idea !

As for as I know the red flag is not a recognised standard rather it is a bright colour that in most circles is seen as a danger signal.

Personally I carry one all the time, as I do boat safety.

If someone were waving the “V” flag I wouldn’t know what it was for but would go over in case there was something wrong.

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It was a club rule in local boat club donkeys years ago that we carried the V flag - never used one and doubt it would bring much help unless being waved frantically!
Have had the odd boat signal V
by means of a torch at night(..._ Beethoven's 5th I believe) meaning I require assistance as opposed to outright distress (engine failure). That worked ok but to be realistic so too would any flashing light I suspect
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Suspecting that these flags are not much used then ...

Mark,
Seemed like a good idea to me! But maybe I'm being unrealistic in thinking the set of flags are a useful form of communication - although the A flag ("I've got a diver in the water") was discussed on these forums, and seems rather important to know about.

Dave, sounds like people don't bother with the visual signals much then. I suppose if you have VHF there's much less need.

So probably I won't carry any flags (but I have got my baked bean can ready for next season!)

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Red Flag
Sounds like penant B - dangerous cargo my dusty memory thinks.
often seen on petrol, oil and other tankers - do the professional seamen agree?
You often see ' Patrol ' Boats (new ISAF Regs say you can't be rescue or safety but patrol boats now) flying 'R' to distinguish them from coach boats at sailing events.

Or there is always that old favorite that all sailing and power boats carry.......
The barrel of burning tar on the foredeck!!!!!!

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If someone were waving the “V” flag I wouldn’t know what it was for...
Me neither..

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but would go over in case there was something wrong.
Yeah, I'd also take a look at what was going on. So, that's another simple and cheap safety device on my list!
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...barrel of burning tar on the foredeck...
Oooh! just seen this... D'you reckon it's a bit risky on a SIB, Keith?
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I thought flares were risky enough. Any way I seem to get a lot of people giving me the 'V' sign, I'd no idea it was an 'emergency' signal!!!

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Just wave one of your (brackets) Keith, then anyone will know who you are
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