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Old 09 April 2005, 04:50   #11
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Shipping charge

Thats why I bought my XS in the Uk and imported.
Ribcraft USA wanted to charge me over 3000 dollars to ship from Marblehead to San Diego.!
I shipped it from Southampton and picked up at Port Huneueme(north of Los Angeles) for just over 2000!

Don't think the US will really get into RIBs until a US manufacturer supplies a mutli function basic boat at a reasonable price. You need to get peoples interest before selling them the "flagship "models
Just got the new West Marine catalog with the Zodiac Cz7 priced starrting at 200,000 dollars..!!!!!
An Avon Seasport 490 with 90 hpYamaha goes for 37,000 dollars.!
So dont think many entry level boaters have a chance to get into RIBS over here ,
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Old 09 April 2005, 09:35   #12
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Not everything in the US is cheaper than UK!

Classic illustration of supply and demand. If RIBS were as popular in the North American market as they are in Europe, there would be many 100's available and the prices would be proportionately lower. If you compare RIB pricing to the pricing of fishing boats like Boston Whaler, Grady White's etc etc they look very expensive indeed. Which is the reason why this Ribster will probably (but not definately) be going to a hard boat when I buy a boat here in Canada. (Although I also want a boat with a little weather protection for boating up here in Canada and I cant afford to import an 8.4m Redbay with the full wrap around console! )

DC Tucker, I get down to your part of the world every now and then as we have an operation in Danvers which is pretty close by I think. I am looking forward to having a look around in the Summer some time.

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Old 09 April 2005, 09:59   #13
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Alan, there is a Protector dealiership in the states. www.protectorboats.com if you want a boat with some protection.
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Old 09 April 2005, 13:04   #14
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Limeydal: On the shipping, you would have gotten off well (comparatively) w/ the $3K Ribcraft quoted you. I got quotes from 2 trucking firms, each about $4000 from Marblehead to Seattle; about $4300 Seattle-Fairbanks. Importing for $2K was a steal! Good luck w/ your boat. j
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Old 09 April 2005, 23:12   #15
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Classic illustration of supply and demand. If RIBS were as popular in the North American market as they are in Europe, there would be many 100's available and the prices would be proportionately lower. If you compare RIB pricing to the pricing of fishing boats like Boston Whaler, Grady White's etc etc they look very expensive indeed.

DC Tucker, I get down to your part of the world every now and then as we have an operation in Danvers which is pretty close by I think. I am looking forward to having a look around in the Summer some time.

Alan
We silly Americans also have far too many lawyers. With liability lawsuits abounding, manufacturers have to pay rediculous liability insurance premiums. And I'd hazard a guess that the cost for a RIB manufacturer would be higher than for a hard boat builder. Could be somewhat of a factor as well...

Alan, Danvers is 2 towns away, PM me if you'll be down during the summer I'll give you a tour of the area by land and/or sea. Do you work for FPI by any chance?

Boatster: Most everywhere I'd hoist launch the boat is a DIY operation and you're on you own for ensuring your equipment is adequate. I was looking over the West catalog today, and may just buy 5/8" 3 strand nylon and splice it myself. A couple of galvanized shackles to attach to the boat and I'd be done for about $60. Breaking stregnth 10,000+ lbs, and Avon asks for 9K.

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Old 09 April 2005, 23:23   #16
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Yeah 30k for that boat is prety fair, RIBS on this side are hard to find, and the ones here over 5 meters are usually decked out for heavy commercial use.
Just the way I like em!!! Has anyone seen a Willard rib? The make personelle boats for the military and occassionaly a rib. Theres one in Hawaii 24' long with a 500 hp diesel up for auction.

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Old 05 May 2005, 19:04   #17
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Wednesday afternoon I had a business meeting with a new potential client. About 30 minutes into our conversation, he asked if I knew of Ribcraft USA in Marblehead where I live. Turns our discussion to RIBS for the next 15 minutes! With the rarity of RIBS in the US, I was astounded at the chance encounter.

He has a Ribcraft 5.85, with blue tubes, a 100 hp Yammie, T-top, standing bolster, many electronics, etc. He bought it a few years ago at the Newport Boat Show, after a sea trial in a 40 knot blow when no one else was going out Loves the boat, goes out and jumps waves with the Jetskis and other PWC. It was used in all of the promotional photos for Ribcraft USA for the 5.85, and I was looking at it in their brokerage listings on their site just a week or so prior. He's also said he likes to restore his toys, and a new Ribcraft has nothing to do but wash it down!

If anyone's interested, here's the listing: http://ribcraftusa.com/ribcraft_5_85_rp.pdf
I had a meeting with my (now) client today. I learned a bit more about this boat. He had planned to take off the T-top with all the electronics, and keep the trailer for his next boat , to offer it at lower price (he's looking for an old Boston Whaler to restore). Now it's going as a complete package, as the trailer and particularly the T-top won't necessarily fit without excessive modification. These goodies are worth about $9000 USD I'm told, so the mid $30,000's ($32? $34? can't remember exactly what he told me) USD selling price does seem like a bargain, particularly based on what others have paid in the US for a comparable new or newer boat.

These big numbers scare me, personally. It really makes me appreciate what a screaming good deal I got on my old Searider! I really AM an old used boat type myself! I almost wonder if it will sell higher on ebay, as I've seen 2-3 year old Protectors and such sell for big $$ on ebay.

He also said that the boat had about 20 demo hours on it, when he received in 2003, and he's put an additional 80 or so hours on it for 100 total hours. The boat's going up on eBay tomorrow, with loads of pictures, etc. I'm sure it will sell... good for him, but I was hoping to hustle a ride first!!
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Old 06 May 2005, 11:59   #18
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give him my email if youd like and we can list his rib in our classifieds section-(its not expensive for a listing)- might help you score some brownie points with him

the problem a lot of rib manufacturers here in the US have that raises costs is that about 90% of the hypalon used by companies who actually manufacture in the US comes from Europe.
Couple that with the exhorbitant exchange rate now and you have your lovely ridiculously high prices.

From my angle though- i really think the US market will be changing in the next few years- there are TONS of RIB manufacturers from outside the US trying to break into this market with significantly lowered priced products and different designs. People will have a lot more to choose from.

We shall see what happens.
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Old 06 May 2005, 14:08   #19
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We silly Americans also have far too many lawyers. With liability lawsuits abounding, manufacturers have to pay rediculous liability insurance premiums. And I'd hazard a guess that the cost for a RIB manufacturer would be higher than for a hard boat builder. Could be somewhat of a factor as well...
Hmmm. Why would you think that? Simply because it's less of a tried-and-true product (here in the US, anyway)?

RIB's have advantages over hard boats: more flotation, better stability, fewer hard parts on unintentional contact. With just a bit of research, the liability insurance guys will realize that RIB's are not a new product, and have no more (if not less) liability than a hard boat.

That said, startup marine operations are not exactly a booming business, either. I think the inroads into the US market have to come from established builders.

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Old 06 May 2005, 14:22   #20
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RIB's have advantages over hard boats: more flotation, better stability, fewer hard parts on unintentional contact. With just a bit of research, the liability insurance guys will realize that RIB's are not a new product, and have no more (if not less) liability than a hard boat.
ahh
this is all very true and proven.
unfortunately people here are still pretty ignorant on inflatables. I still get the question at boat shows "what happens if a shark bites my boat" or " what if my fishing lure pops the boat"

sometimes its all I can do to keep from laughing.
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