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Old 15 May 2007, 13:10   #71
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I'll tell you what Andre, I'd have loved to have a go on the Safari and Sea Hawke, however my time was short and wished I'd stayed for longer. What I missed this year was a natter and a beer with some good friends!

Bogi, sorry we couldn't have talked for more, however when I last saw you, you where dissappearing into the horizon again
I saw you just for a moment and then you just vanished , sorry I did not have time to talk when you came. No doubt we will catch up sooner then later
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Well there's always next years RIBBEX, I'll have to book a room for the night.
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Old 16 May 2007, 10:37   #73
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5 guys enjoyed RIBEX

Hello,

we were 5 guys, 4 from Germany and me from Austria, who visited RIBEX the first time on SA and SU .
We 5 agree, that we had an excellent time at Cowes the last weekend.
Even RIBEX is not really a big boat show and even there were a lot of RIB builders missing, we got a good look over the "english styled RIBs" , which are not so popular in our countries, most people even don't know them.
Most of us own italian RIBs or from other european countries, just one guy ownes a Falcon 640.
We hope, that RIBEX will develop to get a littel larger and that more manufacturer will take part.
We liked the COBRA Ribs and were very impressed by the test rides with the COBRA 7.5 , Ballistic 7.8 (thanks to Jonny Boys ;-) ! ), the KLNR boat and the V-Type from Breezeribs.
I am sure, our next visit will be a big attack to our bank account ;-) .

here are the threads about RIBEX in our forums -
http://www.schlauchboot-forum.com/fo...ead.php?t=6709
http://www.schlauchboot-online.at/fo...ad.php?t=13051
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Old 16 May 2007, 10:54   #74
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Not to get at Andre, at all, one of the nicest blokes in the business. But to me, this sums up the failings of the industry in selling:

"Bruce, you never asked for a ride . We spoke very briefly and you never came back. I have never refused anybody a rib ride. Last year for 3 days we were giving people rides on our seasafari rib. This year we had 3 ribs and all 3 were going out each day."

No, I didn't ask for a ride. I actually wanted to see who offered me a ride. Who actually wanted to take money off me.

When I walk into a car showroom with 75,000 in my pocket for an X5 I don't expect to have to ask for someone to show me how it works and to take me out. Surely I would expect someone to offer to do the same for similar money for a RIB?.

Perhaps I am picky, but I only had a short time this year to spare. I went across from Lym on the ferry and then caught a couple of buses since I had some business to conduct on the phone. Was at the show for perhaps 3 hours. And was offered NO rides, even though I asked for one in the cabin rib I mentioned earlier. So I used the time to look hard at what was on offer, build quality and other issues, and I have so far kept my pocket book locked up.

I was serious - no one risks buses on the Island otherwise - but disappointed.

I had hoped to find someone at the 8.5/9M who did a cabin and at least would talk seriously about the issues and show me their hull in action. Apart from Solent (for whom, lets face it, I am already a client), and despite having a few taster chats which never matured to a song and dance routine, no seller offered me a ride.

The problem, I think, is that I am not enough part of the 'scene'. But then surely, nor are many other potential buyers. And I don't think you colud accuse me of being shy and retiring.....
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Old 16 May 2007, 11:29   #75
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so bruce this is just a question ? as im intrested

you stood there and sold boats last year ?
what did you do diffrent & how many did you sell ? useing a diffrent tack ?

i just wonderd , if i could pick up any tips that would help , what actualy would you do diffrent if you had 8 to spend on every potential customer you saw ?

by the way i just added the bill up for ribex cost us over 6500 to do it

and had to carry 350000 of stock all built prior to satisfie percived demand !

so what would you do
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Not to get at Andre, at all, one of the nicest blokes in the business. But to me, this sums up the failings of the industry in selling:

"Bruce, you never asked for a ride . We spoke very briefly and you never came back. I have never refused anybody a rib ride. Last year for 3 days we were giving people rides on our seasafari rib. This year we had 3 ribs and all 3 were going out each day."

No, I didn't ask for a ride. I actually wanted to see who offered me a ride. Who actually wanted to take money off me.

I am a little surprised at your approach to this, you must have been one of the very few who did not go out on the rib, my rib and the other Baltic 900, the 2 x 750RS were in and out both days Friday and Saturday, Sunday was a tad wet not a lot of people so we only went out a handful of rides. Quite often we had 10-15 people on a slightly rocky jetty so it was not always possible to see who was being spoken to and who wasn't, those that were really interested made it known and taken out on a demo, those that wanted a ride, saw we were about to go out on a demo and asked if we would mind if they too jumped on, we did not refuse anyone unless the rib was full.

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When I walk into a car showroom with 75,000 in my pocket for an X5 I don't expect to have to ask for someone to show me how it works and to take me out. Surely I would expect someone to offer to do the same for similar money for a RIB?.
I very much doubt there are more than 10-15 people at once walking round a BMW dealership looking round one vehicle at the same time.

Personally I think you should have made yourself known a little more, or come back when there were fewer people on the Jetty.

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Not to get at Andre, at all, one of the nicest blokes in the business. But to me, this sums up the failings of the industry in selling:

"Bruce, you never asked for a ride . We spoke very briefly and you never came back. I have never refused anybody a rib ride. Last year for 3 days we were giving people rides on our seasafari rib. This year we had 3 ribs and all 3 were going out each day."

No, I didn't ask for a ride. I actually wanted to see who offered me a ride. Who actually wanted to take money off me.

When I walk into a car showroom with 75,000 in my pocket for an X5 I don't expect to have to ask for someone to show me how it works and to take me out. Surely I would expect someone to offer to do the same for similar money for a RIB?.

Perhaps I am picky, but I only had a short time this year to spare. I went across from Lym on the ferry and then caught a couple of buses since I had some business to conduct on the phone. Was at the show for perhaps 3 hours. And was offered NO rides, even though I asked for one in the cabin rib I mentioned earlier. So I used the time to look hard at what was on offer, build quality and other issues, and I have so far kept my pocket book locked up.

I was serious - no one risks buses on the Island otherwise - but disappointed.

I had hoped to find someone at the 8.5/9M who did a cabin and at least would talk seriously about the issues and show me their hull in action. Apart from Solent (for whom, lets face it, I am already a client), and despite having a few taster chats which never matured to a song and dance routine, no seller offered me a ride.

The problem, I think, is that I am not enough part of the 'scene'. But then surely, nor are many other potential buyers. And I don't think you colud accuse me of being shy and retiring.....
Sorry to sound provocative but that is just plain silly. I am sure that if hundreds of people walked into a BMW dealership with the 75k you mention then they would miss a good few customers, rememebr that many people myself included do not like to be pushed when looking, if you are serious about buying a boat use the voice that god gave you. Do you really want every boat builder jumping out and offering a ride? If so I guess that 3 hours would not be enough to see 10% of the show...

It is so easy to moan about events and be critical, much harder to step up and do it. RIBEX is a small specialised show for a small specialised market, and yes I am sure it could be better but that does not make it bad. It sounds to me that your blaming others rather than addressing things yourself.....
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Bruce, I was there on Sunday and got 4 boat rides in 2 hours, all I did was ask.

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Not to get at Andre, at all, one of the nicest blokes in the business. But to me, this sums up the failings of the industry in selling:

"Bruce, you never asked for a ride . We spoke very briefly and you never came back. I have never refused anybody a rib ride. Last year for 3 days we were giving people rides on our seasafari rib. This year we had 3 ribs and all 3 were going out each day."

No, I didn't ask for a ride. I actually wanted to see who offered me a ride. Who actually wanted to take money off me.

I had hoped to find someone at the 8.5/9M who did a cabin and at least would talk seriously about the issues and show me their hull in action. Apart from Solent (for whom, lets face it, I am already a client), and despite having a few taster chats which never matured to a song and dance routine, no seller offered me a ride.

The problem, I think, is that I am not enough part of the 'scene'. But then surely, nor are many other potential buyers. And I don't think you colud accuse me of being shy and retiring.....
Bruce. Many thanks for your kind words. At the time when you came I was busy talking to an interested party and at that time that party only was getting my full attention. How would you feel if I walked away from you only to talk to somebody else believing I would get a sale. I do not ask people if the have ready cash to spend. I am sorry that you felt I had ignored you. That was not the case. We have known each other since 2004 and have always got on very well. I have found that many people seeing that I was busy at the time of their visit would either wait or come back. You unfortunately did not come back. Parker Ribs will be at Seawork 2007 12-14 June and if you could PM me your address I will send you a VIP invitation. We will have on the water the Parker 900Baltic twin diesel. The same rib which was at Ribex.

Last year at Ribex Richard Ware made 12 rides on our 9 mtr Seasafari rib and I was counting. Not once did he even give me a hint he was in the market for a similar rib. This only came to light after the show. The rest is history.

As for 9 mtr cabin ribs we are currently executing an order for 6 such ribs and the deliveries start from the end of June so if you were to travel to Poland between end of June and October you can have a demo on an actual 9 mtr twin diesel jet cabin rib. See the press release in RI

I do hope you will find the time to visit Seawork so we can discuss this matter further
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