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Old 09 October 2003, 03:56   #1
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Raider Ribs

Does anyone know anything about Raider Ribs as i've a friend who's looking into buying a secondhand Raider with a mid eighties 65hp Evinrude ? i know nothing about Raider so if anyone has any useful advise it would be appreciated.

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I have a feeling that Raider Ribs were the forerunner to Blue Water Maritime. BWM started in 1990 or there abouts. The person you need to speak to is Paul Lemmer now running a rib buying and selling brokerage. You might have to look at Hotribs or Ribnet links page to find him.

Can't help but think that a mid 80s 65 hp engine is going to be anything other than a heap of trouble and spares difficult to find. Would be worth looking at changing it unless its identical to the 3 cly 60 and 70 hp versions. However it is an old engine!

If the price is right (cheap) and the condition of the rib good then could be worth looking at. Saw a 5.5 Raider red, black and orange on the Round Scotland Race in 92 with a 115 Suzuki on the back end. Went like a rat out of an aquaduct. Medium v hull but no worse for that as it makes them quick and easy to plane at the expense of off shore performance.

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Raider Ribs are from RIBS Marine, here:
http://www.ribsmarine.co.uk

You may notice that the range of boats is just like Ribcraft. I don't think this is a coincidence. Have a look at the boats; you'd have to look at the badge to see what you've got.

With what the others are saying, though, it's possible that there's been more than one range of RIBs called Raider. Don't know.

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Old 09 October 2003, 08:25   #5
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I rather thought that Raider Ribs were built by ‘RIBS Marine’ in Christchurch. An old phone number from an Aug 2002 Rib International is 01202 471456. Don't know if it still works.

I was under the impression that they used Ribcraft Hulls which they fitted out and then sent back to Ribcraft for tubing in what I call the 'banana' mode, (ie not segmented). They used a lot of Outhill consoles I think. They certainly had a very nice looking, what appeared to be Ribcraft Hulled 6.5 boat at the 2002 Ribex. Humber was cheaper though!


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I have a feeling that Raider Ribs were the forerunner to Blue Water Maritime. BWM started in 1990 or there abouts. The person you need to speak to is Paul Lemmer now running a rib buying and selling brokerage. You might have to look at Hotribs or Ribnet links page to find him.

Can't help but think that a mid 80s 65 hp engine is going to be anything other than a heap of trouble and spares difficult to find. Would be worth looking at changing it unless its identical to the 3 cly 60 and 70 hp versions. However it is an old engine!

If the price is right (cheap) and the condition of the rib good then could be worth looking at. Saw a 5.5 Raider red, black and orange on the Round Scotland Race in 92 with a 115 Suzuki on the back end. Went like a rat out of an aquaduct. Medium v hull but no worse for that as it makes them quick and easy to plane at the expense of off shore performance.

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BWM used to call their larger RIBs Rapier - 8-9m. I notice that Paul Lemmer's website (as linked by charles) now has a range or Rapiers incl a 6.3m. Guess these are the RIBS previously known as BWM and the 6.3m is what used to be called the Deepsea 21.
Whats also interesting is that I believe that Parker RIBS are based on the BWM designs. (I'm sure Andre can comment on this!).

Raider RIBS I believe were budget Ribcraft as Mike C's says. But relatively recently produced (last 5 years). So would be puzzled to find newish RIB with mid 80's engine? Think unless it was a very good price I'd give it a miss as you could spend as much again on new engine as the boat.
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don't know if these are the people. Based in America I think. Look like nice boats too http://www.raiderboat.com/ .
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Gents there was a rib range called Raider in the late 80s early 90s which is why I think they are forerunners to BWM rather than the current ragne from Ribs Marine. To make matters worse the BWM range was developed from another manufacturer who sold the moulds to more than one person in late 80s. For example a Northcraft is similar though can't confirm their origins. Certainly when Paul Lemmer explained the history to me one evening it became obvious that there was no chance of every establishing a "Royality". Agreed that a mid 80s engine on a newish Rib is unlikely. What we need a is pic. Over to you Richard.

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Ok guys heres a few pics of the boat passed over from my friend, i'm told its a 4.8 and has a 65hp Evinrude 2 stroke on the stern.
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