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Old 26 March 2013, 15:13   #1
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RAF to Loose Air Sea Rescue

I was sad to see (after 70 pluss years) all our AIR SEA RESCUE will now be run by a U.S Private company....Who won the Tendering Process...At a cost to the Tax payer of 1.6 Billion!!... Big Boots to Fill for SURE!
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Old 26 March 2013, 15:23   #2
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I always wondered why UK air sea rescue was so fragmented - why do the RAF run some operations, RN others and Coastguard some. Always seemed strange that responsibility for this did not sit with one Service.

I suppose the CG service will TUPE to the new provider.....not sure about RAF & RN...that would be an interesting consultation with exsiting T&Cs!

Could be worse - could have gone to UKBA who would rescue you, then search you for passport & then drop you back in if you couldn't prove identity!!
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Could be worse - could have gone to UKBA who would rescue you, then search you for passport & then drop you back in if you couldn't prove identity!!
UKBA is being scrapped at last.

BBC News - UK Border Agency 'not good enough' and being scrapped
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Whole thing is a disgrace and false economy for UK taxpayers. Bristows will recruit ex-military who've we've already spent a small fortune training.

After you've given your position and confirmed your MMSI you'll be asked for your credit card number!
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I was sad to see (after 70 pluss years) all our AIR SEA RESCUE will now be run by a U.S Private company....Who won the Tendering Process...At a cost to the Tax payer of 1.6 Billion per anum!!... Big Boots to Fill for SURE!
Better carry around a few dollars for the collection box then!

Also will they send a "frog man" down, followed by a cage, instead of a guy on a wire?
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Just typical of this country what a disgrace
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I was sad to see (after 70 pluss years) all our AIR SEA RESCUE will now be run by a U.S Private company....Who won the Tendering Process...At a cost to the Tax payer of 1.6 Billion per anum!!... Big Boots to Fill for SURE!
Nice sentiment, but no substance.

Read this: Linky

Bristow will run the operation along similar grounds to CHC, a Canadian company who run your SAR operations for you in Scotland and Northern Ireland. Actually, they run our SAR operations in Northern Ireland for YOU, but that's another story.

My personal experience is that these companies will employ local talent, typically ex RAF in your case and their local bases support the UK economy. The crews are very well managed and train relentlessly. In the case of CHC, they have provided heroic SAR cover here for years - conducting missions far out over the Atlantic and on high ground in all sorts of conditions. The only thing that it will cost the UK taxpayers is the little bit of profit that gets repatriated to the US, if any. The RAF could never hope to provide the same or better service for the same money.

I note that Bristow have proposed building the aircraft required in Yeovil, providing huge employment close to you Maximus, I hope they fit the hatches doors properly...

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Whole thing is a disgrace and false economy for UK taxpayers. Bristows will recruit ex-military who've we've already spent a small fortune training.

After you've given your position and confirmed your MMSI you'll be asked for your credit card number!
You do realise the the Coastguard Helicopter rescue service has been outsourced for many years (originally to Bristows I believe). No suggestion that quality suffers; presumably having gone through the tender process at least 3 times now those responsible actually believe it is good value for money; and I've heard nothing that implies there is any intent to charge.

Still we could stick with an ageing fleet of aircraft; which I am sure would be just the choice you would want if you were in distress and waiting for the slower SeaKing, or our of range and had to wait for the Sea King to refuel, or cut its search short because it doesn't have the same endurance.
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I haven't got a problem with SAR being operaed by a private company provided the service is professional and guaranteed.....we are all happy for sea-borne SAR being run by non-tax payer funded orgnaisations, and not expewct the Royal Navy or Caostguard to provide a lifeboar service.

There must have been huge inefficiencies in 3 different services - and their individual admin support providing air-borne SAR (although for RN/RAF there must have been training benefit) but I've never seen the point of CG air-sea rescue as a separate entity.

What is important that round the clock cover is provided with optimum equipment and highly competent operators. With no disrepect to HM forces (with whom I used to serve) they do not have a monoploy of professionalism.

Who's going to tell HRH Prince William he's being TUPEd to the private sector????
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Who's going to tell HRH Prince William he's being TUPEd to the private sector????
He be on job seekers allowance soon then, poor bugger with a growing family to feed, maybe his old man or Nan would sub him bob or two.
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