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Old 17 July 2012, 15:02   #1
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Pro's n con's of bare boat charter

I'm seriously considering making my rib avalable for bareboat charter, and would appreciate some knowledge of the pro's n con's of such, I realise i'd need to up the insurance and get the rib re-coded, but how much on average would this cost. and would the insurance expect the people hiring to have certain qualifications, or would it be up to my discretion, of course I wouldn't want any nutter at the helm, and I would insist on some proof of experience, but I'm sure there are plenty of people out there with experience of smaller / larger vessels wishing to try something different for a day, without having to trail there own vessel hundreds of miles. maybe I could do a package with accommodation, camping or BB included, could it work? and would anyone be interested in shares, with outlook to expand maybe.
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Old 18 July 2012, 07:06   #2
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Ive been there and done it, and wouldn't do it again. Whilst a deposit covers you for the inevitable damage, it doesn't cover you for the time and inconvenience involved with said damage. The worst I came across was someone who drove the boat at speed over a rock, shredding the prop and knackering the gearbox. We then has to drive down to where it was and tow it home, before struggling to find a replacement gearbox in a hurry. Other disasters that spring to mind were a broken windscreen and several mullered props. It's a hire-car mentality - its not mine so I'll rag the hell out of it. Whilst the customer might have all the tickets in the world there's no guarantee they've been near a boat recently, know the local area very well or that they didn't do a zero to hero course.

Solent RIB charter do a lot of it, but then they can afford to keep spares of just about everything so the boat isn't down for long, and from memory require a swipe of your card for a 2k damage deposit.

I think if its just to earn a few extra quid to cover your marina berth or similar it's not worth it. You'd be better doing skippered charters (maybe let the customer drive under your supervision so best of both worlds).
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Old 18 July 2012, 09:02   #3
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Totally agree with Tim! My experience was very similar with people just ignoring things like "water in fuel" warnings, etc.

But hey, why not have a go? Just do it with your eyes open!
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Hi Tim,
Thank you for sharing your experience and sorry to hear it didn't work out for you, It certainly sounds like a risky road to go down, I supose if you could be guaranteed sensible customers then it'd be a winner, if only there where a device that could restrict speed in certain areas, I don't think i'd be to bothered with small dings where the deposit would cover replacement, and part of 2k should cover most likely items, except gear boxes of course. did the insurance cover that out of interest, or where you left out of pocket, I imagine the time and inconvenience of repair being a problem though as you say. As for skippered charter I've thought about it but there seems enough round here as is. but not many on bare boat charter,I like the sound of customer supervised though maybe for the first hour or so, make sure there not lying of experience, but would I need an instructors licence for that I'd like to know. If it could work I'd invest in a couple of sibs aswell, thanks again,
ps I would have replied sooner but I had to pop out.
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just my two penneth worth..... I agree with all thats been said re Bareboat (having also learnt the hard way.....really experienced people too......no-one looks after your kit as you do) and would also flag up that there is already bareboat in the Haven (not sure if you knew that?).....Rudders do it with a small Humber IIRC. Oh and SIBs......think that could be pretty tricky.....
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On the other hand, as a potential punter I would like to encourage more people to offer bare boat charter! It makes perfect sense to me.
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Totally agree with Tim! My experience was very similar with people just ignoring things like "water in fuel" warnings, etc.

But hey, why not have a go? Just do it with your eyes open!


Cheers for that Dry Run, I guess there are many issues like "water in fuel" warnings being ignored, and probably a few more I've not thought of and would appreciate the heads up on. I really do want to have a go, and thanks to Ribnet my eye's are being educated open by the minute, including the previous related threads i'm working through.
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would I need an instructors licence for that I'd like to know. If it could work I'd invest in a couple of sibs aswell, thanks again,
ps I would have replied sooner but I had to pop out.
You wouldn't need an instructor qualification to do this, but if you wanted to skipper it with customers on board you'd need a commercial endorsement (eg advanced powerboat).
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Insurance is another area to research fully. It can be achieved but you need to see the users documents in advance. You will need to ensure they are who they say they are, i.e Proof of ID and also take a substantial deposit, normally a credit card.

The level of qualification is at least a PB2 with experience in most insurance cover for bareboat. I would also look at having a hidden tracker on the baot or else it could leave you on the water and then be taken off on a trailer.

The comp[anies that operate on the Solent have good experience of doing bareboat but there are more hurdles to cross than a skipper charter and you then have control.
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just my two penneth worth..... I agree with all thats been said re Bareboat (having also learnt the hard way.....really experienced people too......no-one looks after your kit as you do) and would also flag up that there is already bareboat in the Haven (not sure if you knew that?).....Rudders do it with a small Humber IIRC. Oh and SIBs......think that could be pretty tricky.....

Cheers Dan, Yes I did realise Rudders where doing it, but they have a lot of overheads to cover, and I think I could offer only 1 boat at the moment admittedly, but 30% cheaper. on a 7m that should attract some interest maybe. plus I would offer 4x4 launch n recovery included.
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