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Old 20 July 2012, 19:22   #31
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[QUOTE=Rogue Wave;477145]Looks like its a goer then good luck! you might enjoy this

Great track that one RW, I hear what your saying and cheers for the thumbs up luck with it all.
It's not a definate goer yet though, but looking more posible every day, I'm booking into the marina this weekend for a month, as I'm looking to make a promotional movie showing the Rib's spec and performance, and maybe include some cruising ground shots. and posible accommodation.
The way I see it is, it's like when the financial avisor asks what you wanna do with your saving's, do you want to be in the( red high risk, high interest zone) or the (blue low risk resonable interest zone.) Well I'd like to be in the blue zone by only hiring to proven experienced, responsible and respectful customers, If it's posible anyway.
I'm not desperatly in need of hiring my rib, but I'd like to see her get more use, so hopfuly the only band members I'll have to pay are the insurers premium's, and tax's of course where applicable. which ever band they fall in.



[QUOTE=PeterM;477148]Of the small boat / non rib type of hire ;

Cheers for the link pete, It seems he's got everything in place there I'd say, reading through the terms and condition's, some people could recieve multi fines for braking rules, well a contract is a legally binding thing I suppose. I think this is why this guy is still in business, because he's got set rules, which should atract respectable customer's, although I'm suprised he dosn't insist on at least some experience with customers though.
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Old 21 July 2012, 12:13   #32
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Cheers for the link pete, It seems he's got everything in place there I'd say, reading through the terms and condition's, some people could recieve multi fines for braking rules, well a contract is a legally binding thing I suppose. I think this is why this guy is still in business, because he's got set rules, which should atract respectable customer's, although I'm suprised he dosn't insist on at least some experience with customers though.
Whilst it might act as a deterrent this clause:

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The Hirer shall comply and shall ensure that his guests comply with the laws and regulations Poole Harbour during the course of this agreement. The vessel under any circumstances shall not exceed speeds of 10 knots. 6 knots in the restricted speed areas. Failure to comply with this will result in a fine of up to 1000 payable to the Company.
is almost certainly not enforceable! Only organisations empowered by law can issue fines; even "penalty charges" are dodgy ground in consumer contracts. He would be far better to take the Hire Car companies' approach and say something like:

- the Harbour authority enforce speed limits of 6 & 10 knots in the relevant areas. Failure to comply with such limits may result in significant fines [upto 1000 or custodial sentences]. The hirer acknowledges receiving a copy of the Bylaws; and that penalties are typically much higher than for similar offences on land. Responsibility for paying such fines will lie solely with the Hirer.
- the Company may terminate the Hire without refund if they believe the vessel is being driven irresponsibly or in breach of the bylaws.
- the Hirer indemnifies the Company against any liability it may have as the owner of the vessel under the Bylaws which arise due to breaches of the bylaws by the Hirer or his guests.
- in the event of any action taken by the Hirer resulting in prosecution or investigation by the Harbour Authority or other competent persons, the company may charge a 50 administration fee to cover its costs and time. On request all details of your hire, including copies of identification documents will be passed to the Harbour Authority; it is a condition of hire that you consent to such disclosure.

obviously if you want to maximise your protection and ensure it is enforceable you need legal advice.
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10 knots.....but bear in mind they only have 15 horses on the back!
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Totaly agree, I wasn't thinking of applying any fines in the T&C's myself, and yes I think your version sounds better, I was just pointing out this bit... "Each vessel is fitted with a tracking device, if the tracking device reports that the Hirer has passed the limit of navigation then the Hirer agrees to pay a fee of 500 on each occasion the vessel passes the limit of navigation".
After another look I noticed they insist on the customer being supervised and fully understand the basic rules of the road, saying "If you and we are happy we set you free!" plus they offer a comprehensive range of courses.
Well I guess that's okay for those speeds, but I would have to insist on at least PB2 or equivalant, for insurance purposes.
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