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Old 03 June 2013, 14:52   #21
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Rule #2 is galloping over the horizon, hotly pursued by #3 I've tried to avoid the whole killcord debate, as it's a circular argument & in the end Darwin always wins.
Is that 'validate your argument by using Hitler' or the other one?
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Old 03 June 2013, 15:38   #22
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Is that 'validate your argument by using Hitler' or the other one?
Hitler, pahh!! lightweight
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Is that 'validate your argument by using Hitler' or the other one?
I think he's referring to his Rules 2 & 3, as per his signature line.

His rule #1 is my favourite, and probably my most broken...
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I think he's referring to his Rules 2 & 3, as per his signature line.

His rule #1 is my favourite, and probably my most broken...
Yep, BTDT
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6. We have suggested several inventions ourselves. Among them are:
A. Integrating a virtual kill cord with a life jacket (boat operator wears life jacket which automatically acts as a virtual kill cord)
B. Sense capacitance of people in the boat to detect man overboard situation
C. Detect screams
D. Man overboard detection without the use of lanyards or wearable tags
E. Automatically detecting a vessel circling with no one on board, and shut it down.

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I find it quite incredible that an entire organisation who have done that much research comes up with a list of complete and utter rubbish! I won't even dignify your list with reasons that none of them will work as you will obviously disagree.

Detect screams? How much have you really thought this through?
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Detect screams? How much have you really thought this through?
Scream detectors we will not even get the charter ribs out of the harbour with a hen party onboard as they love making loads of noise.
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I'm sorry PGIC but I have to ask. Do you spend much time in boats on the sea ?
I like my killcord, when it's worn I KNOW it will do what it's supposed to because it's simple & relies on nothing more than me putting the thing on. No batteries, nothing !!
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As I said earlier, there are so many of you in denial that a self-evident problem exists. I have seen one, just one, half-way constructive response.

At best, the collective wisdom of the RIBNET community as evidenced in here seems to be that a system developed 40 years ago, the first and only system that has been widely implemented to mitigate the empirically validated problem of runaway boats, invented at a time when microprocessors and computerised engine management were more or less unimagined, is nevertheless for all time the best technical response to the problem that is capable of being devised.

The complacency displayed here is astounding. As representatives of your interest group you are a disgrace.

I am one of you and ashamed of it. Don't kid yourselves by thinking my view is extreme and unrepresentative. If I can see it this way, so will others. My personal position is probably just middle of the road.

Don't like the message? Take a look in the mirror.
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As I said earlier, there are so many of you in denial that a self-evident problem exists. I have seen one, just one, half-way constructive response.

At best, the collective wisdom of the RIBNET community as evidenced in here seems to be that a system developed 40 years ago, the first and only system that has been widely implemented to mitigate the empirically validated problem of runaway boats, invented at a time when microprocessors and computerised engine management were more or less unimagined, is nevertheless for all time the best technical response to the problem that is capable of being devised.

The complacency displayed here is astounding. As representatives of your interest group you are a disgrace.

I am one of you and ashamed of it. Don't kid yourselves by thinking my view is extreme and unrepresentative. If I can see it this way, so will others. My personal position is probably just middle of the road.

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I await your perfect solution with baited breath..........
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And so it goes on. More of the same and you really can't see that the attitude you're displaying is the paradigm of the problem.

Are you really so blind and stupid you cannot see that a "perfect solution" is neither necessary nor expected". An improvement is what's needed. A step in the right direction. Positive progress. Acceptance by a decent proportion of stakeholders that devotion of some effort to seek better answers is both due and reasonable.

What is not needed, what is not acceptable, is that you and like-minded others sit back and criticise and reject suggested solutions, even not very good ones, because they're not "perfect".

By the way, it's "bated" not "baited", unless you're trying to defeat your opponents by breathing on them.
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