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Old 04 May 2015, 05:57   #1
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Plastic vs Metal Jerry Can

Hi All,

I am in need of buying some jerry cans to extend range for a summer trip round the inner hebrides on the rib. I was wondering what you think pros and cons are re plastic or metal jerry cans? Are the metal ones safer? But do the metal ones slowly corrode so need to filter the fuel? What do you use and why?

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Old 04 May 2015, 06:07   #2
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Personally I'd go for plastic....but you may have problems finding filling stations willing to allow you to fill anything more than a 5l plastic can. I've been refused to fill a proper 25l mercury external tank before now.

There have been some threads on here in the past.....can't quickly find them though.
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If you can find these, they are the dogs danglies
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Jerry-Plasti.../dp/B00BSW31X2


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Pros and cons. Metal will knock your GRP about if allowed to move at all. Plastic can wear through if allowed to move on non-slip floor. I use industrial 25Ltr plastic cans, they're a lot tougher than the red purpose made plastic petrol cans.

Bedajim had a 25Ltr red jobbie wear through on a Scillies trip. He left an expensive slick right around the Lizard, then his radar fell off!
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thanks all

lakelandterrier - thanks, i will try dig through some older threads and see! a good point re size and fuel stations! hmm

mollers - where have you got your industrial type cans from? - they sound good.

Pikey dave - they look good, will try and find!

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Those USA military type cans Pikey Dave linked to are excellent, a US base near us held regular dispersal sales years ago so there were quite a lot of those cans about this area. I had 3 for tractor diesel... really robust.

Re filling/keeping cans as a private person...

The regs changed late last year and it is now legal without licence to store up to 30l at home. This can be in one 30l demountable tank or in a combination of cans. Plastic is OK now up to 10l and the max for any one metal container is 20l.

The accepted ruling for the petrol station's own association guidelines is that you would be allowed to fill two "suitable" containers. Because the older regs limited plastic cans to 5l of petrol then you were often only allowed the 2x5l... or only 1 if they were grumpy.

Strictly speaking though you should be allowed to fill two suitable containers up to the the max of storage regs... i.e. 2x10l petrol or 1x20 plus 1x10.

The max you can lawfully carry in a car is 30l in no more than 2 containers so that kind of reinforces what petrol stations should let you do.

I don't seem to have issues buying petrol for our Sibbing as long as I use the village garage or buy from a station in a boating area where people frequently do the same... I get a 20l and a 10l outboard tank filled at the same time.
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The max you can lawfully carry in a car is 30l in no more than 2 containers so that kind of reinforces what petrol stations should let you do.
Can you point me in the right direction for that regulation/legislation?
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Yep it's here...

http://www.hse.gov.uk/fireandexplosi...tions-2014.pdf

It looks like a document for commercial outfits but in that Autumn 2014 update they streamlined all the regs into one place... there is a section from page 5 onwards that deals with home/club storage.

I looked into it as we've not too long moved into a "normal" cul-de-sac type house where our garage and the fuel stored in it is just 2m from next door's house.

For the previous 20yrs we had lived out in the countryside well away from folks so, forgetting the legalities, it wasn't quit so crucial.
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This is the document relating to fuel stations own guidance...

https://www.energyinst.org/documents/1317

Page 70 onwards deals with containers where they comment...

A limit of two containers is generally accepted as providing a reasonable
level of safety on the forecourt and also allows for compliance with the
majority of storage conditions applicable to petrol supplied to the general
public for their private/domestic use. This does not mean that greater
numbers of containers cannot be legally filled but it will be for you to decide
on the appropriate numbers based on a risk assessment and a review of
your hazardous area classification; as is required of you by the Dangerous
Substances & Explosive Atmospheres Regulations 2002 (DSEAR).
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Those USA military type cans Pikey Dave linked to are excellent
True, but they are like rocking horse.....to get hold of Frost sell the diesel version, the only difference being the colour of the tab on the neck, petrol is red, diesel is yellow.

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The regs changed late last year and it is now legal without licence to store up to 30l at home. .
30l !!! is that all? Oops might need to shift some jerry cans
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