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Old 29 July 2013, 05:43   #1
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Picked RIB up yesterday.... (Now with pics)

Hi everyone.
Well I'm now officially a RIB owner. Picked up my Tornado 4.5m yesterday. Not the neatest boat on the block but for what I paid for it it she'd certainly give me a foothold. Need to do a bit of work to both boat and trailer though.......









Well, what did you expect. It's not new......

Trailer needs new suspension units. What is currently on it is crap. Was going to buy a set off eBay for use with mini wheels (about 80). Also need to add a roller as its missing of the bottom. And I need to turn the side rollers through 180degrees as how they are now mean that the rib tubes are sitting on a roller.... Need to get the rollers on the rigid part. If that don't work then will replace with smaller set.



The RIB looks ok but does need work. The tubes supposedly stay up for about 3 days. This leads me onto my first question: how hard should the ribs be when blown up. Do they have a degree of softness/bounce in them. My rib has 3 chambers. Roughly how long should I be leaving the blower attached to each for correct filling. I know that's a how long is a piece of string question but don't want to have it run for 5 mins when it needs to be on for 15 if you get my drift.

I need to replace the valves on the tubes as one was deff letting air out when I removed the blower. How hard are these to replace. Do I need to replace the whole thing or just the insert part......



The underside looks a bit flaky. But think its just antifouling. What's under that looks ok ish. Do I need to remove the antifouling?



The engine is a 20hp mercury. But the throttle control cables (x2. Not sure if both throttle or what) are a bit on the short side and run over the deck. I wNt to replace them so that the follow the steering control around the deck.



The big engine question is...... What 2 stroke mix should I be using. I asked the guy who. Got it from and he said 100:1 but something in me says that's not right. What does everyone think.... 100:1 50:1 other mix ratio.......

Other bits on it just need tidying up. Need to sort out the centre driving position. Screen needs to come off and find a proper one for it and need to remove the grab handles n rod holders cos they look bloody horrible. Oh and the compass needs going as no liquid. Was just going to get a fish finder (lowrance) with a transom transponder for depth etc.



Oh. And I think this is PU material (prob got that wrong lol) I don't think it's hypalon as its too smooth.......

How easy is it to remove patches and re-apply them on these sorts of tubes? Is it an easy ish job or something that needs to go be professionally done?



Anyway. That's it for now. Will let you know how repairs go wheni start them (wife nagging to do stuff at home now eek......)

Cheers Gary
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Old 29 July 2013, 10:34   #2
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Hi Gary, welcome to Ribnet, you've, er, umm got yer work cut out there fella! Looks like a cold winter in the spare room garage. AFAIK Tornados were/ are PVC, so they are repairable, but there's a helluva lot of patches on her. The antifoul will come of but it can be a hard 'orrible job, ask "Mick" on here, he's just done a 6.5m Redbay. 100:1 sounds a bit lean for that vintage engine, but I could well be wrong, someone will have a better idea than me. Lose the "rod holders" I agree, they look sh1te. Speak to Nugent on here, he's the windscreen guru & should be able to sort you out. Just had a closer look at the piccies, it's had a different engine on it, which will probably account for the state of the control cables, it looks like the seller has just lashed something together to sell it. The holes in the transom will need filling & sealing before you get her wet.
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Old 29 July 2013, 11:12   #3
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50:1 for that engine. It is underpowered for that boat though.

You may be fighting a loosing battle with those tubes, looks like the seams are failing at the bow. Most tubes should be about 2-3PSI. Be careful if you pump it up in the morning and leave it in direct sunlight.

You can get a service kit for those valves; Leafield Avon A7 Inflatable boat RIB inflate deflate valve


Make sure you get some mudguards for the trailer
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Old 29 July 2013, 11:21   #4
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Oil should be 50:1, blue band Mercs are HP at flywheel so at prop would be around 18HP,
Do you have a Serial No for engine, it should be on the plate on top of the transom bracket, if so we can date your engine.
The decals look either 1980/82 or 1983.

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Old 29 July 2013, 12:31   #5
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Oh. And to top it off. I think i burnt the starter motor out today trying to get it started....... Not impressed with myself there. Mainly cos they don't make a replacement starter motor for this engine.

Do you think it's a sell n job and buy something a bit better...
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Oh. And to top it off. I think i burnt the starter motor out today trying to get it started....... Not impressed with myself there. Mainly cos they don't make a replacement starter motor for this engine.

Do you think it's a sell n job and buy something a bit better...
Yup! Depending on how much you've got in it, you "could" strip off the tubes, flip it on its back & fettle the hull, re-tube it & find a tidy 50-60hp engine. It depends on the condition of the hull/transom & how much you have already spent/want to spend. You could end up with a tidy little outfit & be a lot wiser at the end of the exercise.
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Do you think it's a sell n job and buy something a bit better...




A bit of tidying up and updating is fun but TBH this really looks like it will drag you and your bank balance down and still not be much of an outfit at the end of it...

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I like the "privacy glass" windscreen, bit different...
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Oh. And to top it off. I think i burnt the starter motor out today trying to get it started....... Not impressed with myself there. Mainly cos they don't make a replacement starter motor for this engine.

Do you think it's a sell n job and buy something a bit better...
Definitely. I'd be surprised if it'll plane with 20hp.
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Ok. So if I keep the boat what size engine should I be looking at.... 50hp be ok. And then what sort of money would I be looking at (cheapest end lol) for a good used engine.

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Ok. So if I keep the boat what size engine should I be looking at.... 50hp be ok. And then what sort of money would I be looking at (cheapest end lol) for a good used engine.

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50hp will be fine, not sure about the 4.5 but the 4.8 was rated at 60hp max and mine did 33knots with a yam 50hp triple.
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Have sent you pm back congerman
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So. Dilemma time......

Just been offered a Yamaha 55hp engine for 450 but the problems that it's untested..... Do I risk it or not. The nearest decent sounding engine that's working is double that.

Advice would be good right ow.
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Why cant it be tested? Dustbin filled with water.

Only one reason to sell an "untested" engine - co it wont pass the test...

If you were selling it and going to loose 450 for the effort of getting a big bucket of water, a wee bit of fuel and connecting it up to a battery... you'd put the effort in...
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Not to worry. Have decided to get rid and get something else.
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Get rid? Of the whole package Gary?
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Get rid? Of the whole package Gary?
Yes get rid of whole thing. Cut my losses and get something else. lesson lernt.......
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