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Old 23 July 2003, 14:22   #1
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Phantom Evolution RIB's Info Please.

Does anybody have any info on these RIB's.

I've just been to look at a new 7.5 & didn't feel the build quality was up to much. Seemed all the effort has gone into the sexy shaped consul etc & not materials/workmanship. Not being an expert any advice would be appreciated.

The hull seems a good shape but all the weight seems too far aft which makes me feel a bow tank is essential. The motor would be a 225 Optimax.

My other option is a secondhand 4 year old Revenger 29 & 225 Optimax which seems to be much better built but is priced the same at 25,000.00. (The whole setup on the Phantom is new).

Or, does anyone have a similiar type boat to offer me avaliable for purchase now? (long, pointy & fast.)

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Old 23 July 2003, 15:57   #2
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Hi I dont know m anything about the Ribs myself however I do have an extensive article which I will dig up in an old Irish boat mag.What I dont like about these ribs is the extremely narrow sponsons at the front, They wont do the job, look at the way the nose is built on a Redbay or a Lencraft or Tornado, this is the way sponsons should look if u ask me, the Revengers arnt as narrow up front, but I would be concerned about seakeeping in the Phantom the tubes look way too narrow for such a boat gavin
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Old 23 July 2003, 17:22   #3
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With all those lovely curves, where do set down your cup of tea without spilling it?
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Old 23 July 2003, 17:56   #4
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Phantom Evolution, eh?

Well, have you done a search on here? If not, then have a look here: http://rib.net/forum/showthread.php?...hantom+AND+evo
and here: http://rib.net/forum/showthread.php?...hantom+AND+evo
and last but not least, some particularly fine pictures (even if I say so myself ) of both Phantom Evo (7.5) and Revenger 29 here: http://rib.net/forum/showthread.php?...hantom+AND+evo
RIB International had a feature on the Phantom Evo after the cruise, on which Hugo Montgomery-Swan clocked the Evo at 70mph (by GPS) whilst crossing the Alderney Race. And that with just a single Honda225vtec. I share Gavin's thoughts about the design, but undeniably a fast boat. The builder posts here occasionally and more regularly on boatmad.com
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Old 23 July 2003, 17:56   #5
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Thank you Gavin for your comments about tubes & sizes, I wounder how much experiance you have with performance sports ribs?. Have you ever been in a Phantom Evolution 7.5m rib?. I notice from your profile that you may come from Ireland. I can give you names of people from Dublin that have had demo's in the Evo rib and had no sea keeping problems, infact a Mr K Higgings from Cork who runs a power boat handling & rib school has a Redbay rib, which is a fine boat and does a great job wishes to buy an Phontom Evolution 7.5 rib because of it incredible handling & stability at speed out at sea.

I'm sorry you dont find the tapering tubes to your liking but with my limited experiance to get the looks to match the performance without compromising stablily, handling and sea keeping ability is very differcult. I feel we have achieved this far greater than you give us credit for.

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Hi I dont know m anything about the Ribs myself however I do have an extensive article which I will dig up in an old Irish boat mag.What I dont like about these ribs is the extremely narrow sponsons at the front, They wont do the job, look at the way the nose is built on a Redbay or a Lencraft or Tornado, this is the way sponsons should look if u ask me, the Revengers arnt as narrow up front, but I would be concerned about seakeeping in the Phantom the tubes look way too narrow for such a boat gavin
What a load of old twaddle, comparing a performance craft such as the Phantom Evolution with the likes of a Redbay etc.

Isn't this a bit like deciding to buy a Mercedes, and then choosing between an SLK or a Sprinter van. Horses for courses and all that.

All I can say is that if your first statement is correct, ie, you don't know anything about the Ribs, it might be better for all concerned if you removed the rest of your post.
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Old 24 July 2003, 04:08   #7
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Well said Dirk!!

If it wasn't that I know some of these fine young men on this site, I would truely believe that the said people above are over sixty five, smoke a pipe and should buy a humber!

Facts:

Phantom Evo, Revenger and SportRib are all High performance pleasure RIBS - Can all have the same diameter tube at the bow but I do know that if you require a large diameter tube this can be ordered from EVO but doing so will sacrifice performance, visability and various other elements.

25,000 new!!!!!!! Well all I can say to that is - You're getting your monies worth!! That's cheap!! for a non mass produced boat, that is built to your own spec. You may not get the complete deck moulding but the price of a SR7 for the Mediterranean Version is more like 35,000. Check with other manufactures what the finished boat will be, ready to go on the water - like for like!

I've been in most high performance Ribs during the last few years and can only state fact! Neil took me out in the 7.5m whilst in Cork on varoius occasions, conditions were rough with high wind speeds over tide - The ride was excellent and dry, did not do that awful chine walking that I have experience with other maufactures and not once did I feel unsafe or worried about its sea keeping abitity (or was that Neil's ability?) - If I had to buy any other High performance RIB like for like to achieve the same experience on water (excluding the Sportrib) it would be the EVO!

So until you have been in an Evo, is it unfair to comment on its ability plus its all personal choice at the end of the day!!

Horses for courses old Chaps!!
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Old 24 July 2003, 04:57   #8
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Gavin - I know this is a RIB forum but does that mean that all hard boats are useless - they don't have big tubes at the front!

Our boat has a very small hard nose, ask anyone on the race circuit what a bananaShark is like in a following sea and they will tell you it's got very good sea keeping qualities!

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Hey Cookee, is that the only photo that you have of your boat.

I would imagine that going on the number of times you've posted it, you must owe a fortune in royalties to Keith Slater!!
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Michaeal,

I think I am looking for something similar to you, i.e. 7m to 8m pointy and fast with about 25k to spend.

Trying the RibEye 7.5 tomorrow, but will also start to research the Phantom Evo which I hadn't thought about.

The recemt ProSport thread was interesting and these RIBS seem to fit the bill.
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