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Old 25 July 2003, 17:39   #31
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Irish Sea Rib

CH & Pete7

Are you boys suggesting that a Sparrowhawk 5.2 with jockeys & a 70hp 4 stroker is an Irish Sea tamer (well up to F6 anyway?)

I really must come over in mine - I am considering Holyhead next w/e to meet up with the NW Ribsters - but without company it could be a lonely 60 miles.......
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Old 25 July 2003, 18:09   #32
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It would be good to see you Wittingham if your comeing we will definatly sort out a meet up out.


Look forward to seeing you,we better move this converstion or we might get cought out in a f10.

Speak on the cruising section.

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Old 25 July 2003, 18:21   #33
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Old 25 July 2003, 18:23   #34
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Old 25 July 2003, 18:26   #35
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Phantom Evolution

As an owner of a Steve Baker built Phantom Evolution(not a casual time wasting boat hopper) I think I can lay this argument to rest.
This boat is a complete all rounder. It's sexy with its stylish console and bucket seats a real head turner. How many rib owners can say that.
Its a fast 70mph+ boat in Flat/choppy seas a 65mph+in choppy/rough seas and it can hold its own in rough/wouldnt launch a 7.5 boat sea. As for force 10 who in there right mind would go out in that not even P&O would bother.
This boat is also a fantastic Family boat one my two young children love its a boat that you know you can go out for the day in and no matter what the weather throws at you you will still be able to return safely.
I've owned many different boats over the years and have found this boat to meet all the high standards I have expected from Phantom sport boats. This boat is a boat I would choose to get me home in any sea state, But no matter what Boat you are in whether its a Phantom evo with it's narrowing tubes or a rib with a rubber wall if you have an inexperienced driver or a sea that wants to take you down, when your luck runs out it runs out.
So saving face for a rib I have found respect for if you need to be convinced i'm sure a trip off the needles can be arranged.
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Old 25 July 2003, 18:28   #36
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Old 25 July 2003, 19:19   #37
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Team 16.

Thats your oppinion.As a owner of a Phantom Evolution then dont you think that you are mearly stating what made you buy one ,in the first place?

As far as your abilities to drive the boat safley in the rough at 65mph and to its superior handling abilities unfortunatly I only have your word for that at this moment in time.

A serious rib with a sexy look about it that makes peoples head turn is precisley the ilogical logic that puts me off these supposed brill offshore go anywhere performance ribs.

As long as you are happy then that is all that matters.

Not my bag I am afraid.Give me a Redbay 9.1 anyday.

So lets not prelong the agony as I my intereste is in pure designd offshore Ribs not reconstituted raceing hard boat hulls that have been turned into a perfomance rib to please the market.
They are not for me.

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Old 25 July 2003, 19:24   #38
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I prefer the looks of "standard" RIBs myself. Tapered tubes look wrong to my eyes, and bucket seats look crap to me, though if I was the boy racer type with a souped up Vauxhall Nova, I'm sure I'd love the things!

Fine, maybe these performance RIBs do perform well in the rough, but telling me about it on a forum isn't going to convince me. I'm also not saying they don't, so when I see it myself, I'll know.

And if these boats can indeed do upwards of 60mph in the rough, things are going to be a lot worse if something goes wrong surely?

I'd be a lot happier being thrown out of a RIB doing 25kts in a Force 7 than doing 65.
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Old 25 July 2003, 19:31   #39
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I have only once been out in a F10 - on duty - ( Not again thank you !)

I have regularly been out in a F7 to F8 in our Lencraft Lynx Patrol boats with the Army Boat Squad off of the Aran Islands.

Lots of power, High deep vee,Hull Length, big tubes, drives like a BMW and built like a tank. . Before I can be accused of Jingoism for the Irish built Lencraft, I would have similar confidence in and enthusiasm for a Delta of similar size.

The Phantom is a nice fast boat and probably ok in the right hands on the Irish Sea, but not suitable for the West Coast over here !

To many of us over here, the Irish Sea is a big lake- Short Choppy sea but dodgy mid tide off Wexford and Co Down; and Wind against tide even more interesting.

However, the Irish sea can in no way be compared to the West Coast of Ireland where you can regularly come off a 30 foot crest around say Eagle Island. I have a particular memory of closing both throttles for what seemed like an eternity on a ten metre twin three hundred diesel with surface drives as we cleared such a rogue wave at 50 knots on a record attempt a few years ago. The only thing that saved us was our forward speed and 5.5 tonnes of RIB ! Happy Memories !!!

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Old 25 July 2003, 20:23   #40
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Good point Narked is it safe to do 65mph in a big swell.?

There is no point in this discussion continuing as the wave height and conditions we all been out in will only get more severe ?.

Powerboat I am not having a go at you hear but its just so easy for people to say they are good at this or that and non of us now till we been sailing with them as to wether its Twadle or not.

On this one I believe you compleatly but there are not that many people that have actualy been out in a small boat in a force 7/8 for sure. Its not pleasent.


As long as your happy with the boat that you own that is all that matters and you dont use it in conditions its not designd for,as when something does go wrong it can be very worrying if your in the wrong place with the wrong boat.

Sweet dreams of big seas.NT NT All.
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