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Old 29 November 2009, 11:33   #21
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The link above is to the 2 day course not the Certificate of Competence Exam.

Can I suggest you buy yourself a RYA Powerboat Logbook, in it you will find the syllabus for both the course and the exam along with heaps of other info you will need if you are going to become an Instructor

There is no requirement to have done the 2 day course to take the exam but it is quite unusual. The exam is tougher than the course content. The exam essentially covers three areas
  • Boat Handling
  • General knowledge (IRPCS, navigation, safety etc)
  • Night Pilotage

Based on what you told me by pm a month or 2 ago I would have thought night pilotage and navigation would be the areas for you to work on.
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Old 29 November 2009, 11:39   #22
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Got the log book but it seems to send me around in circles about the content lol!

Interms of what to work on! The navigation we have done so far ive seem to have picke dup very easily and havnt tried the nite nav yet but got some plans to go and get some !
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Old 29 November 2009, 11:52   #23
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Got the log book but it seems to send me around in circles about the content lol!

Interms of what to work on! The navigation we have done so far ive seem to have picke dup very easily and havnt tried the nite nav yet but got some plans to go and get some !
good luck youll be fine. running the swellies at night was fun.just pack a spare prop
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Old 29 November 2009, 13:39   #24
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little or no experience of navigation, night passages
as both an examiner and currently working on commercial boats I do worry as to the level of experience of those who come to us to drive 50ft boats day and night with 12 persons lives in their hands on an advanced commercial cert. Thats why I consider who I pass on exams very seriously these days. But don't worry-it wont be me
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as both an examiner and currently working on commercial boats I do worry as to the level of experience of those who come to us to drive 50ft boats day and night with 12 persons lives in their hands on an advanced commercial cert. Thats why I consider who I pass on exams very seriously these days. But don't worry-it wont be me
Scary ain't it.
I don't want to sound as though I'm putting you down, but a few weeks ago you had little or no navigating experience and in two weeks you'll be qualified to do commercial work.
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Scary ain't it.
I don't want to sound as though I'm putting you down, but a few weeks ago you had little or no navigating experience and in two weeks you'll be qualified to do commercial work.
chewy whilst I agree with your point to some extent:

(1) he'll only be in posession of the qualification to do commercial work IF he passes all the relevant bits first. I'm sure the pass rate is however pretty high -- does that imply standards aren't high? or does it suggest that actually the complexity or skill levels aren't that demanding?

(2) there are places which offer you the chance to train and qualify to drive a car (and I guess a bus/minibus/hgv) in similarly short/compressed time periods. In theory you can drive commercially the next day.

And you do sound as though you are "putting him down" as you have done all the way through the thread!
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Scary ain't it.
I don't want to sound as though I'm putting you down, but a few weeks ago you had little or no navigating experience and in two weeks you'll be qualified to do commercial work.
i find myself agreeing with you to some extent.Allso wouldnt it make scence to carry out the examination in different waters.

But will should be congratulated on his efforts so far. at least he is trying to improve his skills.
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as both an examiner and currently working on commercial boats I do worry as to the level of experience of those who come to us to drive 50ft boats day and night with 12 persons lives in their hands on an advanced commercial cert. Thats why I consider who I pass on exams very seriously these days. But don't worry-it wont be me
Surely the RYA assessment criteria are the same for all training centres/examiners.
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This all sounds really half assed.

the night before the exam the lad said:
"Got a powerboat instructor skill assesmnt tomorrow ! what will i be asked to do ? how long will it last etc ?"


His age & encouraging him are all very well but this is serious stuff, if he was that passionate about the qualification he wouldnt be asking on a forum the night before what it was all about.

Next:
"Passed it! As it turns out I was getting over worked up about it, peice of pi$$ to be honest haha!

Next question and it may benfit from some admin work to delete this thread or change title or what ever but....
Whats the syllabus for the commerical endorsment exam for the advanced powerboat ? got that in 2 weeks"

After not even knowing what the powerboat instructor skill assessement was all about, next we know he has passed it, it was apparently a piece of pi$$.
What sort of standards are applied here? Who examines the examiners?
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'm sure the pass rate is however pretty high -- does that imply standards aren't high? or does it suggest that actually the complexity or skill levels aren't that demanding?
Well, no - the pass rate isn't as high as you think. I've failed almost 50% of those I've examined this year, and next week I'm re-examinimng 3 who were previously failed by another examiner.

The standards are pretty clear, and it isn't an easy pass. You genuinely do need to know your stuff, and be a proficient boat-handler
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