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Old 07 September 2008, 18:50   #11
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How do you stop a kid giving it too big a handfull then?
It takes a split second, by the time it's registered with the instructor surely it's too late?
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Old 07 September 2008, 19:11   #12
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Make no mistake this is entirely the instructors fault!!

The whole point of being an instructor is to take this sort of risk out of the boating situation. You never rust anybody not to be reckless on a course until they have consistently proved to you that they are safe.,

Firstly the instructor holds the throttle until he is confident the pupil (any age) is capable of steering the boat to his instruction

Then instructor holds the shaft of the throttle until he/she is confident that the kid is going to respond accordingly. Your hand is never mre than a second away from the throttle The instructor should always be wearing the kill cord.

Also you nail the safety aspect home all the - all the -all the time, making sure your stoodents know they have to earn your trust. It's quite easy to do this with good humour which keeps things fun.

How old was the instructor, whatever age I imaginre they aged a few years overnight
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Old 07 September 2008, 19:25   #13
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How do you stop a kid giving it too big a handfull then?
It takes a split second, by the time it's registered with the instructor surely it's too late?
I would suggest that some schools (I don't know if this one is does) also tend to use boats with engines at the top end of the power range (it markets well, is more fun for instructors playing, opens up range of charter work etc). You wouldn't (normally) teach someone to drive a car for the first time in sports car. Likelwise basic boat handling doesn't need a boat capable of doing 45 knots+. Presumably if you really wanted to you could fit some sort of "governer" which would prevent any over zealous pupil applying full power (and could be removed once they become more competent).
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I would suggest that some schools (I don't know if this one is does) also tend to use boats with engines at the top end of the power range (it markets well, is more fun for instructors playing, opens up range of charter work etc). You wouldn't (normally) teach someone to drive a car for the first time in sports car. Likelwise basic boat handling doesn't need a boat capable of doing 45 knots+. Presumably if you really wanted to you could fit some sort of "governer" which would prevent any over zealous pupil applying full power (and could be removed once they become more competent).
From memory, I don't think the boat is very big. 4-4.5m with a 50hp.
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Is it mandatory for PB instruction that the throttle is centre mounted so the instructor can safely keep a hand on it?
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When we did our PB2 (admittedly on our own boat) the throttle was (and still is) set on the outside of the console. However, our instructor took up his position on the tube next to the pupil and always had his hand just a few inches from the throttle. It was clear to me that he had effective control at all times.

It certainly would not have been possible to do a complete donut at full throttle.

He didn't have the kill cord on and it did occur that if he went over the side... However, I could see why he got the pupil to wear it because he was continually impressing the importance of putting the cord on as an automatic activity for the helm.

Of course, 80% of the PB2 time was spent on slow speed manouvering and relatively little at high speed. That's what we needed at the time.
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When we did our PB2 (admittedly on our own boat) the throttle was (and still is) set on the outside of the console. However, our instructor took up his position on the tube next to the pupil and always had his hand just a few inches from the throttle. It was clear to me that he had effective control at all times.
Where would the instructor have sat if you had a hard boat, instead of a RIB?


At this point, Jonny Fuller would (if he weren't banned) chip in to say that hard boats are safe and people only fall out of RIBs
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At this point, Jonny Fuller would (if he weren't banned) chip in to say that hard boats are safe and people only fall out of RIBs
Mr Fuller would have a very good point, you just cant fall out of a hard boat

Im sure MAIB will come up with some interesting conclusions
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