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Old 14 July 2014, 06:22   #11
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No no no we're being stupid now, I don't buy the mag for some of the things above, you can't ask people to wear life jackets or don't advertise, what's going on, the HSE are trying to turn the country into a dictatorship state to safety, it's a free country and everyone has there own choice, if they want to go out with no life jackets or kill cords then it's there choice, not yours or the HSE, it's your choice not to buy the mag or get on a boat with them, let's just get on with our own lives, if you want to help people stay alive go and confront everyone who smokes, that kills countless more people that no life jackets or kill cords, better have another cuppa
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Old 14 July 2014, 06:28   #12
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No no no we're being stupid now, I don't buy the mag for some of the things above, you can't ask people to wear life jackets or don't advertise, what's going on, the HSE are trying to turn the country into a dictatorship state to safety, it's a free country and everyone has there own choice, if they want to go out with no life jackets or kill cords then it's there choice, not yours or the HSE, it's your choice not to buy the mag or get on a boat with them, let's just get on with our own lives, if you want to help people stay alive go and confront everyone who smokes, that kills countless more people that no life jackets or kill cords, better have another cuppa
Very well said.
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Old 14 July 2014, 07:10   #13
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I think what was meant by the OP was that it wouldn't have killed PB&R mag to put a comment in brackets ( PB&R fully recommend and support the wearing of LJ etc etc at all times irrespective of local norms) ...or something similar.

I think we all have agreed that there are times when we dont wear one for variosu reasons - swimming / stopped at anchor etc ...

I'll gte my coat ( again)
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Old 14 July 2014, 07:19   #14
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No no no we're being stupid now, I don't buy the mag for some of the things above, you can't ask people to wear life jackets or don't advertise, what's going on, the HSE are trying to turn the country into a dictatorship state to safety, it's a free country and everyone has there own choice, if they want to go out with no life jackets or kill cords then it's there choice, not yours or the HSE, it's your choice not to buy the mag or get on a boat with them, let's just get on with our own lives, if you want to help people stay alive go and confront everyone who smokes, that kills countless more people that no life jackets or kill cords, better have another cuppa
I don't have any problem with a responsible adult making decisions that affect him and him alone ( although of course someone will have to pick up the pieces sooner or later ) . I do have a problem though when children are put at risk , through no fault of their own by irresponsible parents . It simply isn't their choice !
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I don't have any problem with a responsible adult making decisions that affect him and him alone ( although of course someone will have to pick up the pieces sooner or later ) . I do have a problem though when children are put at risk , through no fault of their own by irresponsible parents . It simply isn't their choice !
I can feel a rant coming on, but on second thoughts I'll limit it to "totally agree fella"
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the HSE are trying to turn the country into a dictatorship state to safety, it's a free country and everyone has there own choice, if they want to go out with no life jackets or kill cords then it's there choice, not yours or the HSE,
Do you actually have any information about the HSE's view on lifejackets or kill cords? Or are you just ranting again?
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Old 14 July 2014, 07:39   #17
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I can feel a rant coming on,.........
So can I, but I'll limit it to "plenty more where we came from"
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To wear or not to wear, the users choice.
However, I would take issue with a few of the reasons not to. Warm water - have you ever been thrown out or fallen from a boat travelling at speed? It hurts and chances are you will be incapacitated in some way. Staying on the surface whether warm or not will be difficult.
Sun tan marks - come on, are people really that vain??
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Falling out at speed - thats a good point.
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I don't have any problem with a responsible adult making decisions that affect him and him alone ( although of course someone will have to pick up the pieces sooner or later ) . I do have a problem though when children are put at risk , through no fault of their own by irresponsible parents . It simply isn't their choice !

Again try the smokers see how far you get, they even smoke before the child is born
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