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Old 12 September 2013, 07:27   #1
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Hi the wife and i are going to look at a pac22 this weekend
Thinking of moving from a sr4 50hp
Any things i should look out for
Is it ok to tow with defender 90 tdci

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Old 12 September 2013, 12:59   #2
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OK, quick guesstimate:

http://www.northernexposurerescue.or...t%20Manual.pdf

Page 8 - Boat clocks in at 2.25 Tons.


I assume you have one of these:

Land Rover Defender Station Wagon TDCi [2.2] 110 lwb diesel Estate Deals

Which will allegedly tow 3.5T on a braked trailer. (remember I'm guessing that vehicle is correct!)


So, to use that flavour of Defender to tow that varsion of the PAC leaves you 1T "spare" for the trailer, fuel & any other gubbinry on the boat. I guess a twin axle trailer to carry a Pac will be in the ballpark of 1T.

Even if the "road ready" trailer is >=3.5T, whether your licence will allow you to drive a GTW of 6550Kg only you will know......

Don't forget to stay "road legal" you'll need to deflate the toobs to get it under 2.3M width....


I'll hand you over the the Pac experts for the boat bits!
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Old 12 September 2013, 14:46   #3
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Long way from a SR4............
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No he has the smaller 3 door defender 90"
But it still has 3.5t braked towing weight. lower gross vehicle weight of approx 2.5t depending on exact model.
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Old 13 September 2013, 04:09   #5
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Looks like towing is not a problem
Thanks to the rya for this info


Trailer
A trailer drawn by a motor vehicle must not exceed 2.55m. Projection of Loads on Trailers and on Roof-Racks
The projection of a load on a trailer or roof-rack may be up to 305mm on either side of the vehicle or trailer, provided that the overall width of the vehicle or trailer (including projections) does not exceed 2.9m.

The laden weight of a trailer manufactured on or after 27th February 1977 which is fitted with brakes which automatically come into operation on the overrun of the trailer must not exceed 3,500kg.

LENGTH RESTRICTIONS:
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A trailer (overall length of the towed unit) drawn by an ordinary car (therefore a motor vehicle not exceeding 3,500kg maximum gross weight, or 2,040kg in the case of a dual-purpose vehicle) must not be longer than 7m excluding the hitching device.
The combined length of a motor car and trailer generally must not exceed (excluding projecting parts) –
- in the case of a motor vehicle manufactured before 1st June 1998, 18 metres;
- in the case of a motor vehicle manufactured on or after 1st June 1998, 18.75m.
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Test trip aranged for sunday storms forcast
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Test trip aranged for sunday storms forcast
Good luck. The boat will handle it, whether the occupants will is another matter... ;-)
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Old 13 September 2013, 05:26   #8
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No he has the smaller 3 door defender 90"
D'oh! That's what happens when you try to answer something quickly. I saw the pic of a 90, the rest you can work out!

My concerns appear to have been understood!



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The projection of a load on a trailer or roof-rack may be up to 305mm on either side of the vehicle or trailer, provided that the overall width of the vehicle or trailer (including projections) does not exceed 2.9m.
There is something in the rules about >2.3m overall width - I'm not going to quote from memory & don't have time at the mo to look it up, - it might be as simple as needing warning markers / lights, but check it out - I've never seen a Pac being towed inflated (even on the back of a 40' artic....)

There is a reason the majority of ribs tend to come in 2 beam groups - 2m to get through single garage doors & 2.3m for this towing rule.... I have a nagging feeling above 2.3m you need an escort or something similar?
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I assume the Pacific is the same beam as my Arctic, I tow with the tubes inflated and haven't had an issue. Ribs look so sad with the tubes deflated.....

I was stopped at a checkpoint by the rozzers at one point who gave the whole thing a once over, checked my licence and let me on my way so an only assume they were reasonably happy with the beam.
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D'oh! That's what happens when you try to answer something quickly. I saw the pic of a 90, the rest you can work out!

My concerns appear to have been understood!





There is something in the rules about >2.3m overall width - I'm not going to quote from memory & don't have time at the mo to look it up, - it might be as simple as needing warning markers / lights, but check it out - I've never seen a Pac being towed inflated (even on the back of a 40' artic....)

There is a reason the majority of ribs tend to come in 2 beam groups - 2m to get through single garage doors & 2.3m for this towing rule.... I have a nagging feeling above 2.3m you need an escort or something similar?

Hi, I think you are getting confused with the old regs which allowed a 7'6" axle width and 6" overhang each side and no wide load markings required. Thats why the biggest trailable hard boats you could legally tow were 8'6" wide.

Current regs are as Gaz101 says above.
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