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Old 01 September 2013, 07:34   #1
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We have owned Sparrowhawk S48 since 1992 whence she was a mere 18 months old.

The time has now come to consider the awful prospect of selling her on, as annual usage just doesn't seem to warrant the ownership anymore

Equipped with a 1991 Suzuki DT85 she has been an amazing sea-keeper and rapid vessel.

Configured for diving with a single jockey and 8 cylinder SS bottle rack, double A-Frame with lights, aerials etc.

Sitting on an Indespension Roller Coaster 3.5 braked trailer too.

She is now quite tired and I have contemplated making her a renovation project (as there are lots of little things to tweak) but have to realistically accept that I don't have the facilities and time to get it all done in a timely fashion.

So, to stop the rambling and to get to the point; how on earth do I find out her true value and then how/where do I realise that value with so many scams around

Does anyone buy 22 year old RIBs at other than 'scrap' values these days?

I don't really want to do it because it's unlikely I'll be able to get back on the 'ladder' given today's pricings.

Any assistance with this would be greatly appreciated.

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Old 01 September 2013, 07:59   #2
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Value will depend on:

- tube condition; although I think sparrow hawk has hard nose? so a retube is cheaper I think ?
- tidiness / general appearance.
- engine conditions

I'd stick some up-to-date pictures on here.

There are people around looking for usable boats with low budgets and who might like the option to fix it up a bit with time.

I don't think you need to worry about Scams. They might waste your time but are unlikely to waste your money unless you do something silly like send the boat without .
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Presumably you need some pictures.

So she's tired but is she functional? If she's functional why get rid if you cant raise the capital to replace her? If she's not functional you probably are looking at scrap values..

Tubes? Not sure of current prices - a 4m Searider cost about 2-2.5k a couple of years back to retube. So you could have her retubed for <4k I'd imagine? Would it need you to have the time or facillities?

Engine? A brand new simillar sized engine will set you back 7-8k? Doesn't NEED to be done all at once - i.e. you could retube this year, re-engine in a couple of years... For that kind of cash I'd be shocked if you couldn't talk a dealer into fitting it and maybe they keep the old engine in return. Again you don't need faciltiies.

That only leaves the hull to titivate. Guess that depends what needs done?

If you are selling and genuinely only getting scrap value but will be ribbing in future I'd be stripping anything you might want to reuse off (VHF etc).
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Thanks for the replies; food for thought indeed.

Yes, the boat is still functional and I suppose we could stage some renovations......

But what more modern engine is going to fit on the fairly narrow beam of a Sparrowhawk and deliver the same sort of performance?

Is there anything the same size/weight as a 1991 DT85??
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I'd be interested in the DT85, if you split her.
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FWIW we bought a 1993 Humber Attaque with a similar aged Yamaha 85 2 stroke on for 5k last Autumn. Dunno if that's what you'd regard as "scrap" money but there are peeps out there looking for a decent boat for not much money. To be fair Woody73 had done a lot of work on the boat so it was/is very well sorted for it's age.
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But what more modern engine is going to fit on the fairly narrow beam of a Sparrowhawk and deliver the same sort of performance?

Is there anything the same size/weight as a 1991 DT85??
Anyone help with this question please?
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A Yamaha 2-stroke 90hp.

Just checked out the weight of your Suzuki DT85 (271lbs or 122kg) and its exactly the same weight of the Yamaha 90hp (122kg). I reckon it's meant to be!
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A Yamaha 2-stroke 90hp.

Just checked out the weight of your Suzuki DT85 (271lbs or 122kg) and its exactly the same weight of the Yamaha 90hp (122kg). I reckon it's meant to be!
Thanks for that information!

I wonder if there are any modern lightweight 4-strokes of a similar size/weight for the power?
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Thanks for that information!

I wonder if there are any modern lightweight 4-strokes of a similar size/weight for the power?
The Suzuki DF70-90hp share the same 4-stroke block and weighs in at 155kg for DF90.

Yamaha's new F70 is just 120kg and gets good reviews, but is expensive, and the F90 is 166kg.

Tohatsu TLDI range - 90hp at 143kg.

Mercury 80hp (4-stroke) is verging on obscene at 181kg or Optimax 90hp at 170kg.

Honda BF75-90hp are 163kg.

Or E-Tec 90hp is 145kg.
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