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Old 16 January 2011, 17:09   #41
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Sorry I cannot divulge information like that to a rival site
Arctic 28's cost 130,000 new, not really a rival.
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the point of your site anyway? lol
And what's the point of yours?
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And seeing as I'm not allowed...

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Old 16 January 2011, 17:12   #42
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Bit more complicated than that. Especially since half of the pictures are from sources where I have express written permission. Such as BMC official website (which overides uk obviously), and powerboatracing.be

It's not my copyright to authorise, but I can deem whether appropriate or not. In hindsight, using them for ribnet should be ok
So if someone uses an image without your permission how will you enforce it?
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Old 16 January 2011, 17:15   #43
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Old 16 January 2011, 17:18   #44
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So if someone uses an image without your permission how will you enforce it?
In my case just don't tell me I can't 'cos then I will
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Old 16 January 2011, 17:21   #45
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So if someone uses an image without your permission how will you enforce it?
I do not own the images! The copyright holder has authorised the pictures for me to put on the website only. If you want to use them outside of a discussional environment such as this then you need their permission. Not mine. See my post before Martinis, and the one you've quoted. We did contact a family friend knowledgeable in the field before starting the site, so we do know the score if you're actually being serious.
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Old 17 January 2011, 03:31   #46
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So we do know the score if you're actually being serious.
I was, which was why I asked the question?
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Old 17 January 2011, 04:34   #47
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I added mine yesterday but it has not appeared?
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Old 17 January 2011, 07:46   #48
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I was, which was why I asked the question?
Ok, maybe I didn't make myself clear.

I have done my best to obtain permission to use the photos and other material on the website. But that permission has been granted for the limited purpose of the Osprey Owners website and does not extend to any other use. I have made that clear on the website. So anyone wishing to use the material elsewhere must seek their own permission. I will gladly confirm the source of any photos etc which is not obvious from the website.

To the extent that there is any original thinking on the website, I am not seeking to restrict its use elsewhere save for an acknowledgement as to its source.

I do not have permission to allow people to use the images on the site, but it is not actually my problem if you do, for I do not own them (most of them). If you use them in an inappropriate manner then I will report it to the copyright holder and they will take any action they see fit. If you would like a clarification of what action may be deemed appropriate, then I suggest you contact Peter Moorkens. He runs www.powerboatracing.be, and they have a comprehensive legal section. I am one of the few websites allowed to feature any of his photos.

In light of your comments I will modify the "Boring legal bit" in order to make it more obvious.
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I added mine yesterday but it has not appeared?
AFAIK it should be working fine. Your details have not come through on the confidential email database either. Remember to submit the email addy separately from the boat. They are two separate databases. Also if you press return key at any time, the whole thing gets wiped, and I cannot prevent this. Maybe add a boat called "test" and just put rubbish in the fields to check it works before adding your boat, and if the issue desists I will look into the matter further

Out of interest, the image that Martini has posted I do not have permission to use. So I cannot prevent him from using it, and so it cannot contravene my Ts&Cs.
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Old 17 January 2011, 08:03   #49
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Whats the point of your site anyway?
You don't go for an easy life do you!

The answer is not hard to find: "For the time being, the primary use for this site will be to host details of my upcoming cruises for access by others that are interested in joining me."

And while we are on the subject of intellectual property, I wonder what the MARTINI & ROSSI WINE COMPANY make of martini.je

I am reminded of the huge amount of hassle I had from the British Marine Federation when I set up a web site years ago to help people find transport and accommodation in the area of Earls Court in January. The domain was londonboatshow.info and they went ba-llis-tic! I think it is now operated by an escort agency, which is obviously a much better use for it.
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Membership is free and if you would like details/pics of your boat added to the website, send your details to the email address below.

Things like top speed, prop pitch, fuel useage etc. is especially useful.
Just dug this up from the original launch of the site. Do you think these sort of things would be useful to add to the database? Or is in danger of becoming over complicated
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