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Old 25 January 2005, 13:27   #11
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Fuel guage

It does look as though the navman plugs into the smartcraft harness, so if you have a problem with the loom it could still be there when navman pluged in.
There are 2 wires coming from tank sender into loom and then into ECM.
Black and Orange is the earth wire which must be earthed into loom Earth and not grounded at tank.
Pink and Black is other also goes into loom and up to ECM via a couple of connectors.
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Test both wires individualy for continuity(or get someone to do it for you) this will hopefully tell if the loom is ok up to ECM .
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Old 25 January 2005, 14:03   #12
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Do you have a GRP or metal tank? There is a retro-fit kit or service bulliten i beleive about this problem for metal tanks. Sounds like your dealer is bullshi**ing you a bit here... as Paul says diagnosing further is not too hard, just these things tend to be time consuming.
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It does look as though the navman plugs into the smartcraft harness, so if you have a problem with the loom it could still be there when navman pluged in.
There are 2 wires coming from tank sender into loom and then into ECM.
Black and Orange is the earth wire which must be earthed into loom Earth and not grounded at tank.
Pink and Black is other also goes into loom and up to ECM via a couple of connectors.
Turn off electrics
Test both wires individualy for continuity(or get someone to do it for you) this will hopefully tell if the loom is ok up to ECM .
Paul
Hi Paul. I will get someone to check the 2 wires that you mention and report back. Thanks.

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Do you have a GRP or metal tank? There is a retro-fit kit or service bulliten i beleive about this problem for metal tanks. Sounds like your dealer is bullshi**ing you a bit here... as Paul says diagnosing further is not too hard, just these things tend to be time consuming.
Hi Daniel. This sounds bad, however I have no idea whether the tank is GRP or metal. I assume it is metal but ? The dealer did say he could investigate further but he warned about it being costly. Bearing in mind how much previous bills have been I decided against giving him the go ahead!

What is the service pack that you mention and how woudl I find out more about it?

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Really need to know if your tank is GRP or metal. It should be obvious from any part you can see, for example where the fuel gauge bolts in or where the filler pipe enters the tank.

You could also 'phone RIBcraft, they'll know for sure.

If's is GRP what i mention is of no relevance.

If it's metal then i'll look into it for you.
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Really need to know if your tank is GRP or metal. It should be obvious from any part you can see, for example where the fuel gauge bolts in or where the filler pipe enters the tank.

You could also 'phone RIBcraft, they'll know for sure.

If's is GRP what i mention is of no relevance.

If it's metal then i'll look into it for you.
OK. I'll look into it tomorrow. Thanks.
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The dealer did say he could investigate further but he warned about it being costly. Bearing in mind how much previous bills have been I decided against giving him the go ahead!

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He is seeing you over Tony, either pull him about it or find someone else!

If my memoery serves me correctly they have already told you that the fuel tank guage sender is reading OK.

To read the fuel sender they must have access to it and if you have access to the fuel sender which is attached to the fuel tank. Ribcraft would have installed some sort of access panel to allow you to examine the tank!

re your previous concern re the Navman kit not showing errors. You can have two solutions either stand alone or integrated with navman kit

The first is for fuel and the second takes the Smart guagues to a new level of info

http://www.navman.com/marine/products/fuel/index.html

http://www.navman.com/marine/product...aft/index.html
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The srevice info mentioned concerns the earth wire from the sender.
It MUST go to the earth in the loom supplied for tank sender and paddle wheel.
If a metal tank is fitted and is earthed out to the battery, then the earth from sender is not to go to tank as a short cut.
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