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Shaggy · 27 August 2005, 19:05

Just took these..

paul tilley · 27 August 2005, 19:41

looks like the anti-stuff design on the bows did not stuff it broke !!!!

TIM · 27 August 2005, 21:46

it obvious that, where the lamainates of fiberglass follow the contour of the hull, it wasnt laminated properly, and this caused the weekness!!! its a combination of bad build quality mostly, and bad design second, they should have coped that the laminate has to 'run straight' to retain it strenght, filled out the 'step' with filler , and ran a couple of laminates flat over the chine, to give it strenght.

codprawn · 27 August 2005, 22:06

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Originally Posted by hard1

Actually, their 8.5 metre jet drive starts at around £40K. Given the publicity this incident has generated both locally and in the trade, what do you reckon this has cost in real terms and what is the likely end cost implication? Fine, if no insurers or MCA rule makers ever read their papers, but not so fine if the enquiry finds that the boat (as I suspect) just wasn't up to it, and wasn't even designed and built for this type of use.

I am already looking over my shoulder and it has made me think about RIB limitations for sure, not that I ever get involved with voluntary wave jumping (if that indeed was the cause) when fully loaded. The forces involved on a large hull are enormous.

What do you think of your Picton??? Was very impressed with them when I looked around the factory but Dave wouldn't cut a good deal - resale seems very good on them!!!

Shaggy · 28 August 2005, 09:50

didnt have time to upload all of them yesterday, so here are the rest.

Shaggy

paul tilley · 28 August 2005, 09:58

is this a classic case of splashing a hull ,hence no designer input to ensure proper layup specs ect ,luckily the outcome was not to tragic .but it does possibly prove how dangerous it can be when you dont have proper designer input

roycruse · 28 August 2005, 10:16

I think the outcome was very tragic

for ferryman boats

cant see anyone rushing out to buy one of these now

hard1 · 28 August 2005, 10:31

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Originally Posted by codprawn

What do you think of your Picton??? Was very impressed with them when I looked around the factory but Dave wouldn't cut a good deal - resale seems very good on them!!!

Mine's an older style - back of the tubes in the water which slows her down a bit, compared with the newer, higher hulls. After having driven many RIB designs, I would have to say that Picton is probably one of the most stable, comfortable and driest and are quite good looking to boot. Has lasted well and I would say built very strongly. Following a pretty hard charter boat life for the past 5 years (800 total hours), there are no stress cracks anywhere in the hull. Put a "trunk" in the other day and had to hack my way through a tough 3" thick transom.

All in all, not the best but certainly not the worst and good value for money with, as you say, a good resale value.

Shaggy · 28 August 2005, 11:16

Some of the reports state that they hit a submerged object, can’t really see any sign of this from my photos, I’m not an expert but I would have thought that there would be shattering of the gelcoat/flowcoat around the impact area?

Shaggy

Johny · 30 August 2005, 11:05

I was on that Yellow Rib with my son and it definitely didn't hit anything, just dropped off a (very) big wave and crumpled. I guess fully laden and with all those heavy seats bolted down the weight was just too much?
Thanks to the fishing boat which took my son to shore and of course to the coastguard for coming back for me and the girl from the crew.

The good news is it was my first go on a rib and despite the accident I'm hooked and will be looking at buying one.

Mollers · 01 September 2005, 19:29

I see in the West Briton today (1-9-05) that " submerged driftwood" is being given as the cause. Do we think not?

Jizm · 01 September 2005, 19:50

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Originally Posted by Johny

I was on that Yellow Rib with my son and it definitely didn't hit anything, just dropped off a (very) big wave and crumpled. I guess fully laden and with all those heavy seats bolted down the weight was just too much?
Thanks to the fishing boat which took my son to shore and of course to the coastguard for coming back for me and the girl from the crew.

The good news is it was my first go on a rib and despite the accident I'm hooked and will be looking at buying one.

not a ferryman surely?

Milan · 03 September 2005, 09:37

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Originally Posted by TIM

it obvious that, where the lamainates of fiberglass follow the contour of the hull, it wasnt laminated properly, and this caused the weekness!!! its a combination of bad build quality mostly, and bad design second, they should have coped that the laminate has to 'run straight' to retain it strenght, filled out the 'step' with filler , and ran a couple of laminates flat over the chine, to give it strenght.

Eh