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Old 21 November 2002, 16:42   #11
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After all the comments on the above, and casting back to my slightly flippant earlier one, may I just clarify that I too am in agreement with the new rules and happy to obey! I have, before now, encountered a small sailing dinghy, tacking from side to side across the whole of the harbour entrance, at right angles to, and at the narrowest point. As I was entering the harbour, this brown shadow came across in front of me as I was negotiating many other boats travelling both directions in the small boat channel. (OK, he was on my starboard side AND under sail, but even so!) Good job RIBs have good brakes!

As for the comments about turning the harbour into a VHF only zone. Well is that so bad in such a crowded place with so much commercial shipping? How many serious ribsters, (or boaters in general), do you know that don't have VHF? The possible alternative, banning ALL private small craft would be far worse!

Incidentally, just to prove us RIBsters do try to keep to the rules, below is a GPS track of one of my recent trips in and out. Only the return via the Eastern edge is now not official, (but it was when I did it!)

(C) Garmin Mapsource - hope they won't mind!


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Old 21 November 2002, 17:32   #12
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Hmm, I was wondering were the Ballast was, I will know better next time. QHM could do with a map on there site.
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Old 21 November 2002, 17:36   #13
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Also check out
http://www.qhmportsmouth.com./LNTM/ntm29-02.htm

If you decide to ignore the new rules you could end up being on Candid Camera.
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Old 22 November 2002, 03:17   #14
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Thank you all for your comments. The most important point is how do I intend to make everyone aware....

The key strategies are a new sign at the Harbour entrance - which tells all vessels under 20m to use the small boat channel and a QHM Harbour Patrol in the Harbour entrance during the summer to educate, assist and when necessary enforce the Local Notice. I haven't quite got this sorted yet but am very hopeful it will go ahead. A better note is also being put on all the relevant Admiralty Charts. And of course word of mouth from mariners such as yourselves will also greatly help.

Once again thanks for the support.

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Old 22 November 2002, 04:09   #15
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If all small boats go both in and out past Ballst the harbour entrance will surley be a nightmare in the summer as its only narrow any way. Putting all small vessels on one side of the channel I think will create big problems. Or have i got the wrong end of the stick.

I'm assuming small craft go in and out on the port side of the harbour entrance .

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Old 22 November 2002, 12:33   #16
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Julian,

The small ships channel is on the port as you enter. This is the way its always been and most people follow the rule. However people that dont know any better go all over the place and hence cause problems to big shipping. This is especially the case when small boats leave the Camber as its a blind bend. Hence they have to travel out of the camber giving way to the isle of white car ferries, down the harbour where they can be seen then across at 90' to the shipping lane to Balast then out to sea in the small ships channel. It does work and yes it can get busy but no worse than any A road gets. People need to be patient and chug out in an orderly line.

I am pleased about the new notice, as loads of people break the rules and race about all over the place, and it gives us all a bad name, when many of us know what we are doing and are safe.

Hope this helps, if not I would be happy to show you on a chart next time you go out of portsmouth.

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Hope this helps, if not I would be happy to show you on a chart next time you go out of portsmouth.
No need! I've got my crayons out and marked up Mike C's map:
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Old 25 November 2002, 06:30   #18
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Cheers chaps

It all makes sense now. Will be keeping in line with the new regs. Last time i went there it was a mess. Loads of boats all over the place cutting in front of ferries etc. This should help.

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I poped out for a blast on the Solent yesterday as it looked like a fine day. Called channel 11 and QHM responded no problem, and crossed to the balast bouy. However loads of people where cutting across all over the place.

The solent was nice and calm across near the Isle of White due to Southerlies. Great day until a very black cloud containing rain and horizontal hail stones hit, bring near zero viz to the solent. I love it when the weather comes in like that, and it past as quickly as it arrived.

All in all a great day out, and I got to speak to the QHM twice!
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