Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
 
Old 15 March 2005, 19:00   #21
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: suffolk
Boat name: (Relief) & Blob Mk4
Make: Avon/ILC & Avon
Length: 3m +
Engine: 40hp/10hp Mariner
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 98
Send a message via AIM to Scott2 Send a message via MSN to Scott2
Nope i dont. I only work on and with the things and other boats.
__________________

__________________
Scott.
RNLI Lifeboat Crew, Landy & SIB fan...
www.landrovernet.com
See Ribsters Also....
Scott2 is offline  
Old 16 March 2005, 04:35   #22
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Over here
Boat name: S.S. Nobstick
Make: Three Wise Monkeys
Length: 3m +
Engine: 44lbs of thrust....
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 2,115
Has Mr Grim, The Reaper, been out to play again....?
__________________

__________________
Jono is offline  
Old 16 March 2005, 04:38   #23
Administrator
 
John Kennett's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Brighton
Length: 3m +
Join Date: May 2000
Posts: 6,829
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jono
Has Mr Grim, The Reaper, been out to play again....?
Yes. I removed some pointless name calling. Should have known that the "missing post" detective would pop up as usual

John
__________________
John Kennett is online now  
Old 16 March 2005, 04:56   #24
Administrator
 
John Kennett's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Brighton
Length: 3m +
Join Date: May 2000
Posts: 6,829
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scott2
it looks like a RIB. arent they all pretty much the same thing. a hull with some rubber around it?
You're not the first person to have made a comment like this, but it is one that always surprises me.

RIBs generally have a pointy end and a blunt end and a V bottom, but that doesn't make them the same. Have a proper look at the underneath of some RIBs (or speed boats for that matter) and you might be surprised how different they are when they are designed by different people.

For instance, you're never likely to confuse a Scorpion with an Osprey, or a Ring with a Delta, or a Gemini with a Ribtec. They are all planing hulls, and all very different. Some hull designs are indeed superficially similar, but in my view anyone who says that RIBs are all the same, or all very similar, or all look the same, or that they are all copies in some way, is either not very knowledgeable or is trying to excuse the use of someone else's design.

I haven't given Jon Fuller his 10 yet, but I'm beginning to wonder whether he might be right after all.

John
__________________
John Kennett is online now  
Old 16 March 2005, 04:59   #25
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Farnborough
Boat name: Eleven
Make: Arrow
Length: 8m +
Engine: 557cu, 700hp
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,255
For a hull that's '95%' his own design, it looks very, very similar to a phantom 18. The bow shape and spray rails are quite distinctive.
The transom, including the slight turn down on the chine, location, size, angle of the spray rails, the radius on the keel, and angle of the sides all look identical. The photo's speak for themselves.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	leewayrib 2.JPG
Views:	221
Size:	38.6 KB
ID:	10808   Click image for larger version

Name:	phantom 18 post.jpg
Views:	218
Size:	28.3 KB
ID:	10809   Click image for larger version

Name:	leewayrib 3.JPG
Views:	231
Size:	38.4 KB
ID:	10812   Click image for larger version

Name:	p18 transom.jpg
Views:	344
Size:	116.6 KB
ID:	10813  
__________________
Matt is offline  
Old 16 March 2005, 05:00   #26
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Over here
Boat name: S.S. Nobstick
Make: Three Wise Monkeys
Length: 3m +
Engine: 44lbs of thrust....
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 2,115
Quote:
Originally Posted by John Kennett
Yes. Removed some pointless name calling......

John

It might be pointless to you, oh Lanky One, but it amuses me when I should really be taking an interest in the other Gentlemen in this meeting, I'm sat in.... They think I'm taking "minutes of meeting" on my laptop.........
__________________
Jono is offline  
Old 16 March 2005, 05:01   #27
Administrator
 
John Kennett's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Brighton
Length: 3m +
Join Date: May 2000
Posts: 6,829
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jono
It might be pointless to you, oh Lanky One, but it amuses me when I should really be taking an interest in the other Gentlemen in this meeting, I'm sat in.... They think I'm taking "minutes of meeting" on my laptop.........
LMFAO!

Another of RIBnet's contributions to British industry!

John
__________________
John Kennett is online now  
Old 16 March 2005, 05:15   #28
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: scotland
Boat name: Leviathan
Make: Phantom
Length: 8m +
Engine: GM Diesels
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,437
for the album.

This aint my design, It probably won't get any money sent to the appropriate person(s)

But it would be nice if it were to just get reccognised!
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	P18bow1.jpg
Views:	206
Size:	78.0 KB
ID:	10811  
Attached Images
 
__________________
Jonny Fuller is offline  
Old 16 March 2005, 05:22   #29
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: scotland
Boat name: Leviathan
Make: Phantom
Length: 8m +
Engine: GM Diesels
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,437
This is the suggestion I made on the pontoontalk forum to Leeway.

OK, if two boatbuilders, good boatbuilders, each built a hull to a set of identical drawings, then you took a small moulding from a critical and complicated area on each hull, say, the fwd spray rail & lower bow section, what do you think the chances are that the moulding taken from one, would fit perfectly on the other, and visa-versa?...I'll tell you...absolutely fkkn none.

So, this an excellent test for the originality of a piece of work.
I'm sure you apreciate what I'm saying, in that if two builders working from the same drawing would be unable to match work closely enough to swap moulds, the chances of such a moulding fitting 'by chance' to a 'unique' hull form would be 'billions to one'!

So, if I were to pop round my mates house, wax up the front of his boat, and take such a mould from it, would you be happy for me to publically test it against your 'unique' rib hull?
__________________
Jonny Fuller is offline  
Old 16 March 2005, 05:22   #30
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Over here
Boat name: S.S. Nobstick
Make: Three Wise Monkeys
Length: 3m +
Engine: 44lbs of thrust....
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 2,115
Feck me! That Hardboater has splashed that RIB hull...! Who is it Jonny boy? I fink you should have a word with 'em.....
__________________

__________________
Jono is offline  
Closed Thread

« ballast. | Top | Seatings »
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off





Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 17:00.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.