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Old 20 May 2010, 05:13   #31
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It appears redbay are heading in to targa customer territory and whilst I'm sure fit out has improved I wouldn't imagine there is much of a market share for them there with rich cruising g and t drinking cruisers going to Ireland or jersey for the weekend.
Ah well, 19.75 hours is a record anyway.

There's a lot of guesswork in that post, HP.

First off, AFAIK you haven't seen the inside of IV Maggie, so I'm not sure how you can make ANY comparison on fitout/finishes, good or bad. I may be biased and/or wrong, but at least I've seen them both.

As regards market share, Redbay only knock out around ten 11M models a year, so they aren't a huge threat to Botnia. However, I do know they have a couple of ex-Targa owners on their client list. One came over after losing his Targa wheelhouse windows to a wave and flooding his Missus! If you look over the launch reports over the last couple of years, you'll see a few boats went to the Channel Islands, and I know there's a few more over there with a "lower profile" . I suspect a few G&Ts get nailed on board.

We'd really have to ask the owners why they spent that kind of money on a RIB.

However, I think we could investigate this further. We should persuade neilda to buy one of each and then we could have a RIBnet cruise to test them. Never say I don't have good ideas
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Old 20 May 2010, 05:28   #32
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Ah well, 19.75 hours is a record anyway.

There's a lot of guesswork in that post, HP.

First off, AFAIK you haven't seen the inside of IV Maggie, so I'm not sure how you can make ANY comparison on fitout/finishes, good or bad. I may be biased and/or wrong, but at least I've seen them both.

As regards market share, Redbay only knock out around ten 11M models a year, so they aren't a huge threat to Botnia. However, I do know they have a couple of ex-Targa owners on their client list. One came over after losing his Targa wheelhouse windows to a wave and flooding his Missus! If you look over the launch reports over the last couple of years, you'll see a few boats went to the Channel Islands, and I know there's a few more over there with a "lower profile" . I suspect a few G&Ts get nailed on board.

We'd really have to ask the owners why they spent that kind of money on a RIB.

However, I think we could investigate this further. We should persuade neilda to buy one of each and then we could have a RIBnet cruise to test them. Never say I don't have good ideas
i've got a hard boat cruiser and a rib, i'm in the throws of buying a beneteau swift trawler 34 as well, there are times when it's uncomfortable to go in the hard boat, the rib by design is better at going over the waves rather than through them, i've got 3 mates with fairline targa's 38 & 39 and in a choppy sea i'd rather be in the rib, different story when we are moored in a bay somewhere of course, the difference between classes of boats is more blurred now than ever, all i would say is buy what you want and sod every body else
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Old 20 May 2010, 14:17   #33
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It will be interesting to see how my 11m redbay "Bluewater Raven" and 11m "Skellig of Sark" compare with the scorpions in the Great British rib rally in June
the fleet will do 2000 miles. We will do 2600 miles starting and finishing in Lancashire. Knackering or what!
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Old 20 May 2010, 16:42   #34
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How big are the fuel tanks on the Redbay? I'm curious as to the useful range they have.
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Old 20 May 2010, 17:24   #35
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It will be interesting to see how my 11m redbay "Bluewater Raven" and 11m "Skellig of Sark" compare with the scorpions in the Great British rib rally in June
the fleet will do 2000 miles. We will do 2600 miles starting and finishing in Lancashire. Knackering or what!
Sounds fun, wish I had the time money and skill/knowledge to do it. Good luck!
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We have had a RB 6.1 with 150hp Outboard , 7.1 with 275hp Yamaha diesel & now have moved to a 11mtr with twin 300hp Yamaha diesels. When looking at replacing the 7.1 we looked at more or less all types of boats in the 10 to 12mtr range the likes of Fairline targas, Beneteau, Jeanneau, Elan Power. With the Cruisers you get a lot more space and boat for your money but these boats are only usable to cruise in sea conditions up to force 4 and after this point you can start to do a lot of damage to these boats if you run them hard. This is where the 11mtr Redbay is in a class of its own. You would have to experience the sea conditions that these boats can take and you would give up long before the 11RB will. Any one that has done any long range rib cruising would appreciate the comfort you get from these ribs. How many boats are capable of travelling 200 miles + at 25kn in most sea conditions in one day with a bit of comfort?
Fuel tanks twin 450ltr 375mile range.
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How big are the fuel tanks on the Redbay? I'm curious as to the useful range they have.
She can run for 20hrs so 4 to 500 miles
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We have had a RB 6.1 with 150hp Outboard , 7.1 with 275hp Yamaha diesel & now have moved to a 11mtr with twin 300hp Yamaha diesels. When looking at replacing the 7.1 we looked at more or less all types of boats in the 10 to 12mtr range the likes of Fairline targas, Beneteau, Jeanneau, Elan Power. With the Cruisers you get a lot more space and boat for your money but these boats are only usable to cruise in sea conditions up to force 4 and after this point you can start to do a lot of damage to these boats if you run them hard. This is where the 11mtr Redbay is in a class of its own. You would have to experience the sea conditions that these boats can take and you would give up long before the 11RB will. Any one that has done any long range rib cruising would appreciate the comfort you get from these ribs. How many boats are capable of travelling 200 miles + at 25kn in most sea conditions in one day with a bit of comfort?
Fuel tanks twin 450ltr 375mile range.
Botnia targa and fairline targa are very different beasts. Botnia are used by customs etc and would fair well in much more than force 4, I've been out a few times in 6ish and still pelted along, but I still accept RB better in the last 5% of extreme weather due to tubes.
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It will be interesting to see how my 11m redbay "Bluewater Raven" and 11m "Skellig of Sark" compare with the scorpions in the Great British rib rally in June
the fleet will do 2000 miles. We will do 2600 miles starting and finishing in Lancashire. Knackering or what!
Are we racing or cruising Mr Thornton :-) look forward to meeting up on the 12th....have a good trip down. Regards Phil.
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