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03 January 2008, 17:02
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Country: UK - England
Town: Andover
Boat name: Vampire
Make: RIBCRAFT
Length: 7m +
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Nauta Fuel Bladder DIMs
Can anyone help me out with some difinitive dimentions for both the 50L and 70L Nauta Flexible Fuel Bladders,
There are a range of DIMs on the web so back to the traditional, who's got one and could they measure it please?
Cheers
Greg
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03 January 2008, 21:16
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Are you planning to use them for Round Britain? Do you reckon they comply with 3.21? Might be worth getting a definitive opinion . . .
John
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04 January 2008, 09:41
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Town: Salcombe, Devon, UK
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 2012Marine
Can anyone help me out with some difinitive dimentions for both the 50L and 70L Nauta Flexible Fuel Bladders,
There are a range of DIMs on the web so back to the traditional, who's got one and could they measure it please?
Cheers
Greg
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FYI Paul Tilley at tidel.biz makes them to order in any size!
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Originally Posted by Zippy
When a boat looks that good who needs tubes!!!
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04 January 2008, 09:59
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Originally Posted by Cookee
FYI Paul Tilley at tidel.biz makes them to order in any size!
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Suitable for petrol?
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04 January 2008, 10:34
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Country: UK - England
Town: Salcombe, Devon, UK
Boat name: BananaShark
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Yes we have one and OCR only use that type of tank now and I know Paul has supplied a few now.
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Originally Posted by Zippy
When a boat looks that good who needs tubes!!!
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04 January 2008, 10:44
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Are they CE'd, or racing only?
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04 January 2008, 10:48
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Good question - we have only used them for racing - I suppose they would have to stand up to a pressure test and then they would be ok? I suppose the material must be acceptable as they are sold to the public for petrol? I'm sure Paul would be happy to answer this one!
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Originally Posted by Zippy
When a boat looks that good who needs tubes!!!
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05 January 2008, 16:47
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Nauta / Alternatives
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Originally Posted by John Kennett
Are you planning to use them for Round Britain? Do you reckon they comply with 3.21? Might be worth getting a definitive opinion . . .
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Hi John,
I was aware of that but their does not seem to be any practicle alternative. I hope they apply the same common sense approach to this as they did to the length issue?!? We are looking to use 4 x 50L FFTs which will connect directly into the aux fuel line (which was put in during the build). The tanks will be housed in a 4 compartment Stainless Steel Box on the deck. This will negate the moving of, or transfer of fuel during the race. This will give Vampire a 470L total fuel load. Cuts it a bit fine on one of the legs but hey ho. There is no way the integral tanks on the RIBCRAFT could be increased in size, however I would appreciate any comments from the floor.
Greg
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05 January 2008, 17:52
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3.21
Fuel tanks must be purpose made and permanently fixed. They must be secure, non-leaking, vented, grounded and have an easily accessible means of shutting the fuel supply off from the tank/s. When additional electric pumps are fitted to the fuel supply of outboard motors, a fuel cut-off switch for the pump shall be fitted in easy reach of all crew members. The positioning of the fuel cut-off switch must be clearly marked for safety reasons. (E16)
Fuel transfer at sea is only permitted between your own fixed onboard tanks.
Race fuel may not be stored or carried on board in any jerry-can type of container.
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05 January 2008, 18:20
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How about one of these. Bottom of the page. Not pretty but they'll carry your fuel without mucking around with bladders and containers.
Maybe not bling enough for a southerner... 
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05 January 2008, 21:25
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I reckon that something like that, securely bolted to the deck, would be a much better option.
Shouldn't be any hassle in scrutineering, less likely to leak, easier to fill.
John
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07 January 2008, 12:39
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Originally Posted by John Kennett
I reckon that something like that, securely bolted to the deck, would be a much better option.
Shouldn't be any hassle in scrutineering, less likely to leak, easier to fill.
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Interestingly it doesn't mention fuel anywhere on the page! 
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Originally Posted by Zippy
When a boat looks that good who needs tubes!!!
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07 January 2008, 16:31
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Interestingly it doesn't mention fuel anywhere on the page! |
That's why I carefully said "something like that" and not "one of those" 
John
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07 January 2008, 22:19
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FWIW Adams cat scutineered fine at both national & international events with a bladder tank in 05.
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07 January 2008, 22:58
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Interestingly it doesn't mention fuel anywhere on the page! |
Ok, Ok...
Fuel tanks.
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08 January 2008, 08:22
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They should give the required range OK! 
John
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08 January 2008, 11:57
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Originally Posted by John Kennett
They should give the required range OK!
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Oil tanks .............. so not for petrol then?  Probably not baffled and no fekkin use at all for a boat!
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Originally Posted by Zippy
When a boat looks that good who needs tubes!!!
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08 January 2008, 12:27
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surely it would be easier to make a four chamber fuel tank out of stainless and bolt to the deck and cheaper than making a four chamber stainless box and then putting four fuel tanks in said box .but i will quote if you reqire the tanks ,racing use only though .regards paul
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08 January 2008, 16:39
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Oil tanks .............. so not for petrol then? Probably not baffled and no fekkin use at all for a boat! |
It was a wee jest.... 
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08 January 2008, 22:02
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Boat name: Shark
Make: Zar Formenti 61
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This is mine 70 liters
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