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Old 14 November 2009, 08:16   #1
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Hi Guys,

As a few of you know, I have a fairly rubbish year having being made redundant etc, so I turned my hands back to RIB repairs briefly to bring in some cash rather than going on the dole, I started to do this just in September and October prior to my departure to go traveling for a couple of moths whilst I decide my next plan.

I carried out a temporary/emergency repair for a well known person here who has a charter RIB back in September, I have done a couple of jobs for him the past with no complaint. He then subsequently decided to offer to buy a couple of items I had listed here in the classified section promising payment for both the repair and bits by BACS. He has made numerous promises and is quite frankly just being a complete **** about it, we are now in November, I am sitting in an internet cafe trying to get my money and he is just ignoring me.

He is a well known member here and has been in the industry for a couple of years, should I name and shame or what?
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Old 14 November 2009, 08:19   #2
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I wouldn't just yet. Doing that could make matters worse between both of you. With the person having a charter company I'm sure they have a phone number listed somewhere so maybe a phonecall could sort it all out?

Hope it all works out ok for you though. Take it easy
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Old 14 November 2009, 08:19   #3
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He is a well known member here and has been in the industry for a couple of years, should I name and shame or what?
First port of call should probably be to JK.

I would like to think that it would be best to name the person, just so that someone who is about to do a similar deal with the same person can be forwarned.
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Old 14 November 2009, 08:22   #4
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.... He then subsequently decided to offer to buy a couple of items I had listed here in the classified section promising payment ....
I would just like to clarify that this was not me

http://rib.net/forum/showthread.php?p=323600#post323600

I didn't even get the courtesy of a reply on this.......
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Current legal advise on this is ABSOLUTELY NOT (in Ireland admittedly, but we're still running Law&Order v1.13 that you guys left us with in 1923). I'd throw it to the small claims court, but show the guy the application before you file it. He's just dicking you around. If you are "found for" there, then you can tell us, as it's a matter of Public Record. If he is "found for", guess how much trouble you would have been in had you told us?
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He's just dicking you around. If you are "found for" there, then you can tell us, as it's a matter of Public Record. If he is "found for", guess how much trouble you would have been in had you told us?
But surely an invitation to explain his point of view would be a good way to avoid a small claim? The courts like to see that efforts were made to keep the matter away from them.
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I would just like to clarify that this was not me
... and naturally, no matter how Guilty mi Lud you might look, DHD, we all believe you

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I'm talking bollix, but you already know that :-)
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From what you're saying, there doesn't appear to be a dispute over the transaction, simply a problem getting paid for your goods & services, in which case, you have a pretty strong case for the County Court making judgement in your favour.

You still have the problem of getting payment from the guy.
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I would not advice name and shame as usually this lead to a confrontation of some sort but offer some ideas of how I have previously handled similar .
1. Add late payment charges to all invoices
2. add additional payment charges for chase up letters (just like banks)
3. Ensure you keep all documentation, letters, e mails
4. Keep records of all tel calls

When all this fails then the cheapest option is the on line small claims court
https://www.moneyclaim.gov.uk/csmco2/index.jsp

5. Also take a copy of the claim form before you send it,Write DRAFT across it and send it to the person/company with a covering letter stating your intention to send to court if no payment+charges made within x number of days.

I also did this with a very large football club and they paid in hours


This allows a simple option but you need their address to send the on line papers and costs about 35 but this gets added to the charges. If the person/company fails to pay then a court order is done and this effectively 'screws up' the person/company from obtaining credit and it also keeps it lawful and allows you do show credibility and business accumen Hope this Helps Ian
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But surely an invitation to explain his point of view would be a good way to avoid a small claim? The courts like to see that efforts were made to keep the matter away from them.
No. Despite what the Beak may say, Courts like us to waste their time, they get well paid for it. I do a bit of this stuff through work (retrieving monies owed ) and the advice shared is that of our legal dude, i.e. beware attempts to "name & shame", it can end in tears if the other party wants to make an issue of it.
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