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Old 24 December 2004, 09:25   #31
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What about Redbay? I understand they are meant to be good in the rough.
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Old 24 December 2004, 10:51   #32
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I would guess fitting toobs to a Phantom would enable it to go out in anything rougher than a Force 1..
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Old 24 December 2004, 11:06   #33
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Hightower, i think that all RIBs are a compromise and the characteristics which are required to make a boat hugely quick in the calm and exceptionally seaworthy when it kicks up are at loggerheads.

For speed etc, you are going to need a different type of hull form. Long and thin tends to be the norm and a high power to weight ratio is a necessity.

However, the opposite is needed for an exceptional sea boat. A deep V with a very full bow and much chunkier construction is required.

Subsequently, the chunkier design will add weight to the boat which then results in loss of speed and so the circle continues to spiral.

By using different, lighter construction materials you may be able to get the more seaworthy design to weigh in similar to that of a standard 'quick' RIB but also remember that there is no substitute for weight in the rough as it will aid in keeping the boat stuck to the water and punching on through so the endevouring to loose weight may be detrimental to the boats capabilities.

So, youve got a heavy seaworthy hull which needs more power to get it to go quicker in the calm but the result is again more weight so top speed will, i guess reach a point when adding more power will be ineffective due to weight increase.

Again, i guess a compromise must be reached.

Remember also that the boats which tend to have the superior seakeeping characteristics are commercial and will nearly always have a heavier lay up, more heavy duty fittings and often heavy duty tubes, all of which add additional weight to the design and will lower top speed.

If I had to buy a 5.5m boat, it would be a searider. There’s no substitute for feeling safe and knowing that the boat will give up and fail a long time after you will!
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Old 24 December 2004, 12:01   #34
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i don,t agee it would have to be a searider as thay seem to be well over price

i had about 65 hours on my valiant when i sold it and that was in six months
which is more than most would do in a year the searider is a top class boat
an i don,t belive most go out in force 5/6 each week so its not worth paying for a rib you would not use to its full

i would love a nice 4.7m searider but to find one second hand with the right
kit i have more chance of wining the lottrey

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Old 24 December 2004, 12:22   #35
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Granted, they are expensive but you pay the extra for their build quality and capabilities.

They may not be the fanciest RIB around but they are great at doing what they are suppost to do, and that is work. Most new searider purchasers i guess are commercial users and it thus pays for them to spend the extra initially as the boat will have a longer life span and is less likely to fail.

Like you say though, for leisure use it may not be viable unless you can get a good second hand one (which is unlikely as most get used and abused).

However, if youve got loads of spare dosh or are happy to refurb on, why not?

Glad to hear your making the most of your toy!! Its upsetting when you see RIBs that dont ever move - especially when your boatless like me!!

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Old 24 December 2004, 12:35   #36
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move we went out from burnham last weekend

it took me three days to recover from the pain in my legs from the bashing
i took one for not being in a searider two for frezzing
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Old 24 December 2004, 12:43   #37
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Yeah last weekend was good weather for it and the good thing about winter ribbing is the sea is all yours. Unless some tug comes by that's not being driven very well!

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Old 24 December 2004, 13:46   #38
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i known about tugs

some very good friends of mine served on the sun tugs on the thames

i think smit own them now

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